PlasticPigeon
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- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Thank you for your kindness.
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Wrote a very long reply, and lost it when starring your post… :-(
In short: Thanks for all the great info and went down quite the rabbit hole with that link to your post, that linked to another person’s post. Great discussions happening there. :-)
But it seems like Friendica or RSS might be the way to go. It’s not about posting videos to Peertube from Mastodon, but about having a hub to follow and interact on other networks like PF, PT, Lemmy, Kbin, FF, etc.
Thanks again!
- Comment on 9 months ago:
AHA! You might have give the answer that was needed! Friendica might be the best thing to use, as you are speaking of doing exactly the idea that made this post: interconnectedness and interoperability.
Tested Friendica now and it could reply and follow a Beehaw community and vote on it from Friendica! So perhaps this is the best way to go forwards, will test it now on Lemmy, Kbin, Pixelfed and Peertube as well.
Thanks for this, you solved the case! :-D
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Perhaps it was written badly, but it’s more of a space to be able to follow/like/comment on a photographer’s work on Pixelfed, or a video maker on Peertube, or a Lemmy thread, or a Mastodon post. After having read all the replies, it seems it’s only possible for Friendica or by using RSS.
So will do some more research into that. Just don’t want to create a whole bunch of accounts on so many sites, when it is said that you can connect to them all from one place, like on Wikipedia and other sites and videos that was looked at for research into understanding what the Fediverse is, speak of the Fediverse as this place where everything and everyone can interact with each other with ActivityPub protocol.
- Comment on Change My Mind: The Fediverse is not as connected as were told, and it's splintering even more. 9 months ago:
Thanks for your kind response, it really was not intention to upset anyone or badmouth the fediverse, it was more of a frustration from what might just be a misunderstanding of how the Fediverse / ActivityPub network actually connects and interacts, vs. what they show on wikipedia and some other sites / videos when doing research on what the fediverse is and how it works, exactly.
PS: Looked at the article and wow, it’s a bit high in dev-talk, so can’t really grasp what’s being said, unfortunately. :-/
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Hi there, thanks so much for your nice explanation and taking the time to respond. :-)
Two questions, and please understand that these come from someone with a non-dev background:
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According to wikipedia Lemmy is 4 years old and in alpha/beta, but Mastodon is 7 years old. The AT protocol was only introduced in 2018, and most of these networks have implemented it. And on another Wiki page there are images showing how they can all talk and connect with one another. So is this not the case? Lots of people have commented with the fact that they don’t want them all to connect, as it will muddy the waters. But with the reading done, it gave the impression that these networks can all interact, if they’re federated of course.
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And this might be a terrible question: Would it be possible to install say Mastodon, Kbin and Friendica instances on one server if it’s just one person that’s playing around to test the behind the scenes and see what they can do? Assuming you could then link them to sub-domains: eg. Kbin.websitename.com Mastodon.websitename.com, etc?
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- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Thanks for your response, was actually thinking of also creating a personal instance, for a small group only, then one can play around and set things there as you would want.
Stupid question: to just play around or experiment, would it be possible to install say a Mastodon, Kbin and Friendica instances on one server if it’s just one person that’s playing around to test the behind the scenes and see what they can do?
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Thanks for the info, makes sense, went and read up some more on Mbin now, and strangely most of their instances are named under Kbin…
Tried to do a search on Lemmy and Kbin on a post from Beehaw, and it couldn’t find anything. So will have to check if Beehaw has blocked them or something.
It seems that Friendica (using it via the @phanpy@hachyderm.io 3rd part Mastodon app, that it can reach and comment on Beehaw just fine. Read somewhere on one of the replies on the post that Friendica / RSS might just be the best bet in interacting with most / everything in the fediverse.
So will be doing more tests on that.
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Understood, but this is not about getting everything in one place or being connected to everything. It’s about the fact that it sounds like you can connect to all (federated) instances and networks (Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed) etc. But in reality it’s still very fragmented, and more people and servers are defederating all the more.
So yes Lemmy’s aggregation makes sense there, Pixelfed’s photos, or Peertube’s videos make sense there. But a lot of sites (eg. Wiki example in original post) and videos watched on the fediverse topic, make it sound like you can create an account in one place and then reply, like, comment etc on the other networks as well.
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Thanks for the feedback, but unfortunately what you said is way above this guy’s pay grade, so it’s not making sense. :-(
But you sound like you know how it works, so thanks for your knowledge and help in the fediverse. :-)
- Comment on Change My Mind: The Fediverse is not as connected as were told, and it's splintering even more. 9 months ago:
HOPING TO EXPLAIN BETTER:
Sorry. Perhaps the thoughts were not clear, but have watched a lot of videos and even Wikipedia makes it seem like they are all social networks and that one can follow / post / reply on the other networks:
It isn’t about following everything and everyone, but about not wanting to have a Pixelfed account to follow a photographer, or not needing a Lemmy account to follow interesting topics, or not needing a Mastodon account to follow a blogger / writer. It is perhaps then a bit oversimplified on the “intro to the fediverse” videos / posts that’s been seen on the web. Was hoping to have one single account on any of the above, and then just interact from there, and not needing an account for every single one of them.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
HOPING TO EXPLAIN BETTER:
Sorry. Perhaps the thoughts were not clear, but have watched a lot of videos and even Wikipedia makes it seem like they are all social networks and that one can follow / post / reply on the other networks:
It isn’t about following everything and everyone, but about not wanting to have a Pixelfed account to follow a photographer, or not needing a Lemmy account to follow interesting topics, or not needing a Mastodon account to follow a blogger / writer. It is perhaps then a bit oversimplified on the “intro to the fediverse” videos / posts that’s been seen on the web. Was hoping to have one single account on any of the above, and then just interact from there, and not needing an account for every single one of them.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
HOPING TO EXPLAIN BETTER:
Sorry. Perhaps the thoughts were not clear, but have watched a lot of videos and even Wikipedia makes it seem like they are all social networks and that one can follow / post / reply on the other networks:
It isn’t about following everything and everyone, but about not wanting to have a Pixelfed account to follow a photographer, or not needing a Lemmy account to follow interesting topics, or not needing a Mastodon account to follow a blogger / writer. It is perhaps then a bit oversimplified on the “intro to the fediverse” videos / posts that’s been seen on the web. Was hoping to have one single account on any of the above, and then just interact from there, and not needing an account for every single one of them.
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
- Comment on Change My Mind: The Fediverse is not as connected as were told, and it's splintering even more. 9 months ago:
Thank you for your kindness and understanding. :-(
- Comment on Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now. 9 months ago:
Apologies, misunderstanding, posted apology above too. English isn’t first language. Was trying to do the “change my mind” meme format they use on other sites to ask someone to prove you wrong, which is what was hoped for.
Apologies again.
- Comment on Change My Mind: The Fediverse is not as connected as were told, and it's splintering even more. 9 months ago:
This makes no sense, really sorry. Made a post and when looking for it, it just showed nothing. Look here is a screenshot of my personal feed. It only shows the comment on a fediverse post, which I then created into a stand-alone post, in hoping someone would be able to explain or prove me wrong.
And I can’t even go and delete the posts, as when looking inside the posts on my profile, it shows nothing either.
REALLY sorry for the multiple posts, thought the app was bugging out. :-(
Really sorry. Will check on laptop to see if I can find and delete the multiple posts from there…
- Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now.Submitted 9 months ago to fediverse@lemmy.world | 15 comments
- Prove it wrong: the fediverse is not as connected as we're told, and it's splintering even more now.Submitted 9 months ago to fediverse@lemmy.world | 11 comments
- Submitted 9 months ago to fediverse@lemmy.world | 21 comments
- Comment on 9 months ago:
This is what makes the Fediverse so frustrating. Been using it for months, with Kbin, FireFish, Mastodon, Friendica, IceShrimp and Lemmy.
And no, they do not speak to one another, find one another or are able to follow / like / reply to one another as one would think the Fediverse works, based on all the videos and illustrations and introductions to the Fediverse.
The truth: some speak to some, and it rarely works both ways. Mastodon has a lot more that it can do with interacting with Lemmy, than the other way around.
And then there are those that defederate from their own kind / federated social network, splintering the Fediverse even further apart.
Have had to either join new , delete accounts, create with new accounts again, just because the server that was suggested or chosen, have been chosen as a server to defederate with.
Now with many accounts and many networks and servers, been trying to find the best place to just have one space in the Fediverse and be able to communicate and follow and interact with other lovely Fediverse users.
Maybe it’s a misunderstanding from this side, but this has been the experience for almost a year now.
- Comment on HELP: Fediverse app / network that allows the following? 10 months ago:
Thanks for the great explanation and taking the time to reply. :-)
And yes, want to be able to like or reply on other instances or federated sites like Peertube or Pixelfed.
Not wanting to post photos or videos necessarily, maybe post something on Mastodon or ask / comment on Lemmy for the communities.
Created accounts now on iceshrimp, mastodon, kbin, friendica and lemmy. Testing to see who can do and speak to what.
Ends up just being overwhelming, everything is so al over the place, and searching or following on other sites don’t always work.
The fediverse sounds a lot more connected than what it is in reality. And now people are defederating from one another because of Threads or because they don’t like the other guys, etc. And some now also want to go private. It’s like the wild west out here. :-o
So might just delete and leave everything altogether…
- Comment on People who order "a decaff coffee with an extra shot" - why? 10 months ago:
Been drinking decaf (instant + filter) for a while, due to causing anxiety and crashing badly after. And it’s only when someone doesn’t have decaf and you drink normal coffee (exact same strength, even if made by self) that one realises how bitter the caffeine itself tastes. (Don’t drink sugar, just milk.)
So perhaps they want that bitter bite, which decaf doesn’t do naturally, which the caffeine being the most bitter part of the drink.
- Comment on HELP: Fediverse app / network that allows the following? 10 months ago:
Thanks so much for taking the time to explain and for the information. So if understood correctly, you say a web browser woud be best? But then wouldn’t you still need to have an account on Lemmy / Kbin / Mastodon / Peertube / Pixelfed, as they don’t all talk to one another, and for those that do, they don’t necessarily talk both ways, such as Lemmy and Mastodon.
Been using the Fediverse for a few months now, and wow, surprised at how complex some things are to understand still.
- Comment on It's a vibe 10 months ago:
Sorry, this wasn’t aimed at you personally, it was a response to what the person said regarding asking an honest question and feeling like they offended someone.
Apologies again, should’ve maybe mentioned that in the comments.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no harm was meant. :-(
- Comment on new mastodon instance now open: cyberpunk.lol 10 months ago:
Peak yes.
- Comment on It's a vibe 10 months ago:
This has happened a few times as well on this side. An honest question of trying to understand, and then get told that’s doing “sea lioning” which is something that was pointed out a day or two ago. Learn something new every day.
But it makes one sad if you do want to learn, to really understand better, without harm meant or judgement, and NOT every time, but most of the time, being called a (insert a sensitive topic here)-ophobe.
There are things that even wikipedia doesn’t explain properly, so one has to sometimes ask, especially if it’s really something you either don’t understand or get at all. Like on this side it’s literally not knowing any better, that got the trouble going, not harmful intent.
There are still questions about queer / femboy / trans that are a mystery, but makes one too scared of offending. And this is written with 100% sincerity. This is not a blaming game or finger pointing exercise.
And imagine it’s someone who actually is interested or still wanting to come out and asking sincere questions, if someone attacks you, it would put you off for life, nevermind being hurt by a group / race / idea that you aspire or look up to. :-(
- Comment on HELP: Fediverse app / network that allows the following? 10 months ago:
Had a look specifically and only some work with some others. Tried to follow a mastodon person on Lemmy, couldn’t even find him, url or name or anything. Lemmy users confirmed it’s a one way thing, with Mastodon being able to do both wats.
Kbin also works both ways, and is also a hybrid of them both, being like reddit and also microblogging. Though it’s quite new still and doesn’t seem to offer keyword filtering or apps at all.
- Comment on HELP: Fediverse app / network that allows the following? 10 months ago:
Thanks! But also on further reading, realise that not all Fediverse social networks can interact with one another. And this kind of breaks the whole point of the Fediverse, doesn’t it? Mastodon can follow and interact with Lemmy, but Lemmy can’t even find Mastodin users in search, nevermind follow or interact.
So the Fediverse seems to be more fragmented and broken than initially understood. :-/
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