Senate Banking Committee chair called Chinese EVs an “existential threat” to the US motor industry.
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Senate Banking Committee chair called Chinese EVs an “existential threat” to the US motor industry.
Archived version: archive.ph/4RY84
The US auto market is being held hostage by the same five companies that want to force you to buy different variations of the same fuckhuge $34,999 (plus dealer tip) AWD, CVT-powered plasticmobiles loaded with features you never asked for. Fuck them, if domestic cars are so good, what are they afraid of?
Don’t forget how they’ve spent the last century lobbying against public transport infrastructure and walkable cities, requiring most people to own a car if they want the same mobility people across Europe and South East Asia have access to (at 2-5x the cost).
True. The UAW got a huge PR boost this year, but don’t forget that those fucks want us in massive, overpriced cars that we don’t need just as much as the Big Three.
You know what, the US automotive industry has only served to produce useless vehicles with lower quality standards than anything other manufacturers produce. They cost the American taxpayers over $30 billion during the market crash of 2008 and most “US” brand parts aren’t even made in the US anymore. Toyota makes more “American” vehicles than GM or Ford do at this point and Chrysler is owned by Fiat!
I see this as less of a China good / China bad thing and more of a regulatory capture issue. The problem is not really that China makes cars that much better because they are doing something magic.
The problem is that:
I expect the US government to again try every possible thing but solve the underlying issue, which is that the market is being manipulated from the supply side to make for ever bigger cars burning ever more fossil fuel. If Tesla et. al. would actually get around to releasing that “$25k car”, this would be less of an issue. If the US - and I mean the majority of the population who live in metropolises and sit in traffic jams, not the people farming in the prairies - wasn’t so car-dependent that you absolutely need a car to exist, this wouldn’t be an issue.
The US car lobby is sucking its citizens dry, and China is taking advantage of the induced but unmet demand.
I saw a review of the $11K BYD car. Part of the way they had reduced costs was by having the company’s own divisions make and sell a lot of the parts, like the motors, battery packs, transmission, headlights, infotainment, etc.
The divisions also sold to other car makers, but they obviously charged less for their own internal brands.
The U.S. AND European car makers are essentially systems integrators, buying parts from vendors like Denso, Magna, Continental, Bosch, etc. then assembling them together.
I imagine it would be impossible for car makers using this model to reduce costs below a certain level. They would have to completely redo their business models.
some-controversy for the 4th time this week
You heard it here first folks: electric cars that don’t cost the price of a kidney, rust on contact with air, plow themselves into pedestrians or burst into unquenchable lithium flames are an existential threat to the US motor industry.
are current Chinese EV’s compatible with American vehicle safety standards?
America’s safety standards are a fucking joke. They haven’t been updated for decades. And yes, China vehicles surpasses weak America’s standards.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
US claims to love their capitalism fueled open market. Yet they feel the need to subsidize them anyway and then cry that others are outcompeting them. Pathetic.
astraeus@programming.dev 7 months ago
Yeah this whole subsidize, too big to fail horseshit was status quo fifteen years ago but Stellantis isn’t even an American company. Let the Jeep factory shutter, stop giving into their demands for government fuel. Dry them up, let them go down. If they can’t survive without the subsidies, better more effective companies will.
PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 7 months ago
International competition is really amazing, it can drive innovation and make governments spend a ton of money on good things for society. It’s probably one of the biggest pros.
But the US banning Chinese products (more than just cars) only delays the inevitable. China is producing cheaper products. Are they better? I can’t really answer that, since I don’t know. But I’d be willing to buy a Chinese EV. US auto industry would collapse if China was allowed to enter and honestly, we deserve it.
The US is going to go through a strange and difficult transition when we are no longer the world leader on R&D.
Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean I don’t fully disagree with you but we have been doing tariffs on cars for like a zillion years. Having grown up in the backyard of the big 3 and had both my great grandfather and grandfather work for them. They have provided their works a decent salary and benefits I will say it’s been worse and worse but that’s America business. You just can’t find a good pension job these days.
These Chinese companies are working off slave labor and really shitty working conditions. Never heard of people jumping off a Jeep building like Foxconn. Let’s just put a net around the building #FoxconnNets