What a weird article.
Think $5.50 is too much for a flat white? Actually it’s too cheap, and our world-famous cafes are paying the price
Submitted 7 months ago by Ilandar@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
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walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 7 months ago
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Whatever the price is, it’s higher than I’m generally willing to spend.
Taleya@aussie.zone 7 months ago
There’s a homeless dude in NZ making decent coin using a thermos of boiled water and some instant coffee for like $2 a pop. It comes down to “do you want luxurious drink” or “ME NEED CAFFEINE NOW”
Ilandar@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Yes, I have to admit I also struggle with the idea that people buy a “barista made” coffee every day of the working week. You can make great coffee at home for way less money and you have full control over how it’s made and what ingredients you use.
I still buy coffee from cafes as part of weekend social meetups, though. I like the “cafe culture” independent places generate and I’m happy to pay more to support that.
guillem@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Just for a bit if perspective: the average monthly salary in Switzerland is around $11000 so maybe $10 for a flat white is more affordable.
MHLoppy@fedia.io 7 months ago
If comparison against average monthly wage is your benchmark, it's still proportionately cheaper in Australia with average monthly wage being $6,201.43 (i.e., >50% of $11,000, whereas the coffee price is <50% of $10.16).
Average wages here are also higher than the majority of the countries above us on the average-coffee-price chart.
guillem@aussie.zone 7 months ago
To be honest it isn’t my benchmark, I was just adding that to the context in the same way I could have added any other differential circumstance: my point is that it’s more complicated than what the article says.
And that it’s probably less about “someone think about the baristas” and more about the benefits, but that’s another story.
sqgl@beehaw.org 7 months ago
I don’t trust the article.
I recall having coffee and croissant in A Salzburg historic courtyard cafe for half the price of one in a shitty Aussie suburban location.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 7 months ago
You don’t trust average price data because of a personal anecdote? Very strange take.
sqgl@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Did the author choose airport coffee shops in the most expensive cities?
BakedCrossaint@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Doesn’t factor in cost of living, probably only exchange rates. Also Japanese coffee is terrible.
sqgl@beehaw.org 7 months ago
I imagine Italian coffee is good though.
Nath@aussie.zone 7 months ago
There is no scenario where I’m willing to spend $6-8 on a coffee. I am not alone, I expect most people would not. Market demand simply won’t support that price point.
At the same time, if the market were willing to pay $10 a coffee, you better believe that cafes would gladly charge that $10.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Yes they are expensive, but they have been for years. I have made my own for 15 years or so. My old Rancillio Espresso is still going strong 15 years later.
Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 7 months ago
is it just me or is the news full of bullshit articles these days priming us for price rises in pretty much everything? sick of this shit
kowcop@aussie.zone 7 months ago
I have noticed it too… it is like propaganda. Why you should not wait and buy that house now, house prices have never been stronger… now this
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 7 months ago
This is especially weird coming from the conversation as well
Taleya@aussie.zone 7 months ago
I’d be happy if it was due to the death of undervalued labour, but this is just straight up greed
Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 7 months ago
completely agree
Ilandar@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Prices rise regardless of whether they’re discussed or not. If it makes you feel so uncomfortable then just don’t read articles that are obviously about cost-of-living like this one.