This is the best summary I could come up with:
While out on bail for domestic violence offences, he went with a jerry can of petrol to her home in Arundel near the Gold Coast, tied her to a clothes line and, while her three children, then aged between two and nine, played nearby, he set her alight and she burned to death.
The sights, the sounds, the sensory trauma now irrevocably lodged deep inside those children is unthinkable.
It’s worth dwelling on for moment so we can think about what this particular iceberg tip says about the danger lurking underneath for women in abusive relationships.
How often do we hear of women desperately trying to get help, of being known to the system as victims of violent abuse, of then turning up as the next statistic?
There is absolutely nothing anyone in the Queensland police force can say now to make this OK. You can’t mollify this disgraceful scenario by saying the words “wouldn’t you love to turn back the clock?” and “this case represents a failure”.
Reporting to police is already terrifying and dangerous for abused women; knowing they may be ruthlessly dismissed by those charged with their protection may be the final nail in their coffin.
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Cypher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Women are the victims so the system obviously hates women and women have all the answers is such a braindead take.
Children are also the victims; should we be asking them to solve this problem? Does the system hate children?
The problem is with men, with a system and society that treats men like shit at their lowest points in life and is constantly shocked when those men lash out.
I say this as a survivor of domestic abuse so severe that it would horrify you. As a child I didn’t have any answers because I wasn’t equipped to even understand the source of the problem.
Should the police have gotten off their asses and done their jobs to prevent this woman’s death? Absolutely and NOTHING absolves the police of this failing.
Police also failed to stop what my father was doing. It was a court appointed psychologist and doctors who finally listened to him that changed his behaviour.
Men need help. Helping men will make everyone safer.
Help men and they WILL be better, this is a demonstrable fact based on violence declining with social safety nets and resources for men.
Also fuck the police. ACAB and you can bank on at least one of those cops she asked for help being a wife beating POS.
Kachilde@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So, women and children are the most common victims of domestic abuse. Your solution to this is to coddle the men who beat, abuse, and murder their families? Because they have been “treated like shit”? If a fox keeps killing my chickens, I’m not going to ask the fox for advice on how to protect the coop.
Buddy, EVERYBODY is treated like shit by society these days. But most of us don’t take it out on our families and loved ones. 99% of us feel let down by the system, yet manage to not tie our partners to clotheslines and set them on fucking fire.
The absolute shitstains that can’t wrap their head around the idea that their pain doesn’t give them the right to hurt and kill the people that depend on them deserve no word on the matter of domestic abuse. Fuck them.
bane_killgrind@kbin.social 8 months ago
I don't think they mean coddle, they mean treat the underlying mentality.
Like, get them to wrap their head around it.
Yeah you are right, everybody gets the short end of the stick. If a women is the abuser she just has less options to do damage.
Cypher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Those are some nice constructive solutions based on evidence you’ve provided, thank you for the contribution.
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
What the reddit is this shit.
Firstly the article doesn’t say that.
Cops are mostly men and yeah they fucken do hate women. The stats back that up. So changing the “system” (ie the way police forces deal with abuse to get more women involved and in positions of power) is absolutely a brilliant idea. Cops also (statistically) hate their kids so it’s a double whammy.
Pieces of shit that beat their partners and children don’t get a pass because no one gave them a sympathetic pat on the hand and a cuppa. Very few people alive today believe it is acceptable to beat their spouse and kids. They do it because they can, and because they get away with it.
If the court appointed a psychologist to your father then the system DID help him. Too late, obviously, but that suggests to me the issue was with the (almost certainly male) cops not stepping in sooner to get the court involved.
I’m sorry you suffered abuse as a child and I hope your life has been safe and full of love since then.
Cypher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Go over to the cesspool and check the thread, nothing there is as high quality as my comment here. They are literally all fixated on one of three things, ACAB, “so horrific my feels” and “im an abuse victim rant”.
No solutions. No suggestions. No understanding of the root cause.
No it is heavily implied that only women can solve this through such suggestions as women’s only police stations, staffed only by women.
This is treating a symptom and not addressing the root cause; which allows more people to become victims in the first place instead of preventing offenders from existing. Do you hope for new drugs to treat cancer symptoms or do you want cancer cures? Both are great, one is better.
PEOPLE that beat their partners and children don’t wake up one day wanting to be awful humans. Dehumanising offenders at every opportunity because of emotional reactions, which are understandable but not necessarily helpful, only prevents treating the root causes of the offending.
Truly broken people are extremely rare, most people are the results of their circumstances. Yes there are and always will be exceptions. Exceptions so rare they might be once in a generation.
I do not like going into details but this was after 18 years, and only after we nearly killed each other. Cops ignored everything until the point that two people were hospitalised and ignoring it was no longer legally possible for them, and even then the useless bastards tried to put blame on me.
Female cops were involved, from some of the earliest instances of abuse. Cops are cops. More cops won’t help. Governments everywhere have tried more cops. It never works. There’s some saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results isn’t there?
I have a genuine question on a topic that’s more related than most realise. Do you think sustance abuse issues should be treated as a health issue or as a criminal matter?
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 8 months ago
The article doesn’t really say this though.
Cypher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Read between the lines a little when one of the suggestions is women only police stations staffed exclusively with women.