Hosting websites over 4g

Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨justawittyusername@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

I have been hosting a few websites from my home server and it has taught me a lot. I have recently had major issues with the electrical storms, Kogan NBN support (Australia), and the NBN network in general. I know 4g is not fast, but I would like to use it so that in the event of a network outage, im not at the mercy of NBN. On to the question!

I run pfsense in hyper v with a 4 port nic which passes through those ports to pfsense.

I realized that 4g ip addresses are not public, which stops me from hosting the websites.

Reading into wireguard and vpn services my plan is to: Set up a VPS ✅ Set up wireguard on the VPS ✅ Create a wireguard connection on my windows server, and pass that in as an interface to pfsense, so that hopefully, I wont need to change to much on my internal infrastructure.

Does this sound like an OK plan? I’m open to any other ideas where I can achieve the following:

web app >> nginx >> pfsense >> vpn tunnel >> VPS with Public IP (can be dynamic)

Thanks!

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you’re buying a VPS why not host the website there?

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- justawittyusername@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Good question, I will want to host more in the future, im trying to keep costs as low as possible.
  
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  - taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Depending on what you are trying to host and where you live power usage and your own hardware might be more expensive than the VPS you require to host those.
    
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- thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This. Hosting at home might be cheaper if you are serving a lot of data, but in that case, the speed’s going to kill you.
  
  I’m a keen self-hoster, but my public facing websites are on a $4 VPS (Binary Lane - which I recommend since you’re in Aus). In addition to less hassle, you get faster speeds and (probably) better uptime.
  
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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I know 4g is not fast, but I would like to use it

There was a time when people used to have 2400 bits per second from home (for the youngsters: that is 0.003M). So if you are doing it for fun, why not.

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- filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  True, but everything is more bandwidth demanding these days, plus we’re used to fast loading.
  
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sgh@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you looked into Cloudflare Tunnel? It’s a turnkey solution that does exactly what you want. No idea what the cost is though.

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nopersonalspace@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I mean I think it really depends on the type of website you’re trying to host. A static blog for example would use way less bandwidth than a media server for example. Traffic would have the same effect too, where 1 concurrent visitor to a blog would probably be fine but 10,000 would be a problem.

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forwardvoid@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you’re hosting websites and not applications, perhaps you can use SSGs like Hugo/Gatsby. You could deploy your site in a bucket and put cloudflare in front. They can also be used on your own server of course. If you are hosting applications and want to keep them on 4g, you could put a CDN (CloudFlare or …) in frint of it. That would cache all static resources and greatly improve response times.

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MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’re on the right track. As long as wiregurd on the VPS will allow an incoming connection from you home 4g, which will probably be CGNAT, it’ll work. Did you look into running the NGINX reverse on the VPS? I like terminating external stuff on cloud side, then only bring filtered or desired traffic over the tunnel.

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nis@feddit.dk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m using Headscale for something similar. I have a VPS and a server at home. Both are on the same Headscale network. On the home server I set up a Matrix server. On the VPS I set up Caddy as a reverse proxy for the home server with its Headscale IP. It works nicely.

I’m not on 4G, though.

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SteveTech@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I doubt this will be any use, but my Telstra 4G has a public IPv6.

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forwardvoid@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you’re hosting websites and not applications, perhaps you can use SSGs like Hugo/Gatsby. You could deploy your site in a bucket and put cloudflare in front. They can also be used on your own server of course. If you are hosting applications and want to keep them on 4g, you could put a CDN (CloudFlare or …) in frint of it. That would cache all static resources and greatly improve response times.

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Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters

CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT

IP Internet Protocol

NAT Network Address Translation

VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)

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StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sounds like a connection would work with that setup but it would depend on what you are planning on hosting. Anything that is sensitive to latency would probably not work well. Static sites should be fine though.

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Fewer Letters	More Letters
CGNAT	Carrier-Grade NAT
IP	Internet Protocol
NAT	Network Address Translation
VPS	Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)