Is this Seagate Exos drive too good to be true?

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• TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It depends. They’re simply the most annoying drives out there because Seagate on their wisdom decided to remove half of the SMART data from reports and they won’t let you change the power settings like other drives. Those drives will never spin down, they’ll even report to the system they’re spun down while in fact they’ll be still running at a lower speed. They also make a LOT of noise.

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  • ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I got a set off ebay, Jesus christ they’re loud. I ended up returning them cause I could hear the grinding through my whole house

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    • Lem453@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have 3 14tb exos drives. I have them in a Roswell 4u hotseap chassis. Running unraid.

      It’s nearly inaudible over the very reasonable case fans. No grinding noises. I can hear the heads moving a bit but it’s quite subtle. Not sure why people have such different experiences with these

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    • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ahaha that’s about what they do.

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  • hperrin@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aren’t they meant to go in data centers? You wouldn’t want a drive in a data center to spin down. That introduces latency in getting the data off of them.

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    • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That should be a choice of the OS / controller card not of the drive itself. Also what datacenter wants to run drives that don’t report half of the SMART data just because they felt like it?

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  • czardestructo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have an Exos x16 and x18 drive and they both spin down fine in Debian using hdparm.

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    • TCB13@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Care you share your hdparm config then?

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• ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s just the cheapest type of drive there is. The use case is in large scale RAIDs where one disk failing isn’t a big issue. They tend to have decent warranty but under heavy load they’re not expected to last multiple years. Personally I use drives like this but I make sure to have them in a RAID and with backup, anything else would be foolish. Do also note that expensive NAS drives aren’t guaranteed to last either so a RAID is always recommended.

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  • rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok cool, I plan on using them in RAID Z1

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    • RunningInRVA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Make that RAID Z2 my friend. One disk of redundancy is simply not enough. If a disk fails while resilvering, which can and does happen, then your entire array is lost.

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  • Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To support this: Backblaze consistently reports much higher failure rates for Seagate drives than all others. I personally don’t trust them. All my failed drives are Seagate, but that’s anecdotal. www.backblaze.com/…/hard-drive-test-data backblaze.com/…/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2022/ the by manufacturer graph.

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    • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That tracks with my experience as well. Literally every single Seagate drive I’ve owned has died, while I have decade old WDs that are still trucking along with zero errors. I decided a white back that I was never touching Seagate again.

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    • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For sure higher but still not high, we’re talking single digit percentage failed drives per year with a massive sample size. TCO (total cost of ownership) might still come out ahead for Seagate being that they are many times quite a bit cheaper. Still drives failures are a part of the bargain when you’re running your own NAS so plan for it no matter what drive you end up buying. Which means have cash on hand to buy a new one so you can get up to full integrity as fast as possible. (Best is of course to always have a spare on hand but that isn’t feasible for a lot of us.).

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• Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

  Fewer Letters	More Letters
  HA	Home Assistant automation software
  ~	High Availability
  NAS	Network-Attached Storage
  RAID	Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage

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• Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hell of a deal. i started using refurb drives, still 5 year warranty, because I was going through so many. Sometimes you get them half off.

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