Pluralistic: “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” (08 Dec 2023)::undefined
Neither thief nor beggar, Giveth away the feast. Were pauper the king, all given to the lean?
Pluralistic: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" (08 Dec 2023)
Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/
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JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 11 months ago
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
For the life of me my Google-flu is not turning up a source for this quote. I’d like to read it on context
damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That would happen if you have the Google-flu. You should take some Bing-iene to cure yourself.
cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Is that bible remix? www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthian…
billwashere@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If peasant had plenty, Would bounty cease to mean? If all were filled with fortune Would soul stay swept clean?
jaybone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is a pauper not usually also a beggar?
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Pretty sure this was a comment here over a week ago.
Dalvoron@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Some version of the phrase has been around for a couple years at least
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 11 months ago
whoa, next thing you’re gonna tell me is that the “you are the product” one hasn’t been coined by Lemmy either!
agraves@lm.possum.city 11 months ago
this is so true
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Forget about features and prices, how about actual content?
2017 I buy this space shooter game called “Destiny 2”. It has some problems, but it’s decent enough. $60 buy in. The single player story missions took you through four initial planets/moons, the European Dead Zone, Titan, Nessus, and Io, recovering your power and kicking the asses of the space turtles who tried to kill everyone.
Expansion 1, 2, 3 and 4 come out widening the story, adding more locations, Mercury, Mars, The Tangled Shore and the Dreaming City, the Moon… with all the associated story missions, strikes, raids…
And I bought in on those too. Some hundreds of dollars.
Roll forward to 2020, almost 2,000 hours in game. Bungie decides they’re done with story missions and removes them from the game. They also decide that the game is “too big” for new players to get into, and seeking a Fortnite, free to play style audience, removes 1/2 of the content from the game.
Existing players like me drop the game because content we paid good money for and hours we spent exploring, collecting and curating gear, just went up in smoke.
New players now have no onboarding point and are incredibly confused because there’s no story and no real way to get into the game.
So Bungie managed to completely alienate both their existing user base, and the one they hoped to attract.
Oh, and they have now promised not to do it again, but at the same time, haven’t brought the content back either.
It’s an online service as a game too, so piracy is not an option. The only way to experience the original content is through YouTube videos.
youtu.be/EVH865r2J8k
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I was interested in playing at some point and it was around when they took out content that I was considering it. Then I find out it’s missing the beginning and because of FOMO I’m like, nah I won’t even bother then because if I do end up liking the game I’ll just end up sad or annoyed that there’s parts I’ll never get to experience.
registrert@lemmy.sambands.net 11 months ago
Here’s how they get you; did you buy “Destiny 2” or did you acquire a limited use license subject to change at the publishers discretion?
I haven’t bought a game since Cyberpunk 2077 on GOG. Sure I’ve “perpetually leased” some games on Steam since then, but I didn’t buy them. They can be taken away from me by the owner at any time and I’m very aware of this.
Very sad, people should be able to buy games to own, keep and share those treasured memories throughout their lives. I can still whip out Final Fantasy 7 on original disks if the kids ever want to see how we did it in “ye olde days”. Destiny 2-players can never do such a thing.
Makes me question if it’s even the same type of products.
FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I see this argument a lot.
I’m someone who has been gaming since the C-64 days (load “*”,8,1), and honestly I think I’ve lost more games through data corruption on the physical media, simply losing a disk, having a compatible operating system go away, or having the physical media hardware no longer be supported. I actually like the fact that I can just re-download a game whenever I want to play it.
I’ve had a bit less luck with streaming audio, where a service will have licenses for some but not all of the tracks of an album (that’s really annoying), but the trade off there is that I’m not actually buying it, and as a result I have access to god knows how many artists and albums.
The one that really gets me is the fragmentation of video content among a dozen or more services, but hopefully we will start to see a move back towards consolidation there.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Steam is exceptionally good at this though as I don’t know of a single game that has been removed permanently ever. They have delisted and stopped selling a bunch, sure, but you can still download and play them.