First Real Self Host Setup question

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Grenfur@lemmy.one⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

So I finally finished gathering the hardware for my first real homelab. I currently have a pi that I run nginx, searxng, and pihole, but I’m looking to move to something more hefty. I’ll probably leave pihole and nginx on the pi. I’m wanting to set up plex to host things for home use as well as a way to store photos, Documents, etc locally. Ideally my friends and I play games like valheim and icarus and I would like to be able to use a vm or container to host game servers when needed.

My hardware currently consists of an amd 4650g pro, 16gig ddr4, amd a520 mobo and 2 1tb m2s.

My question is I’m considering setting up proxmox for this but I wanted to see advice before I go to far. Is there a more preferred option? I’m not too hung up on cost but ideally I don’t want anything to run through like a host page off my network or something. And I would like something that will allow me to expand storage since 2tb isn’t really a lot

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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Prefer containers over VMs when possible, which is most of the time. You’d stretch your hardware much further than using VMs. I’m running 20 containers at the moment on an 1800X and I use the same machine as a gaming desktop. It’s vary rare I can tell that there are resource-hungry services running while I’m actively using it. I can be playing CS2 while several Plex streams are being serviced. Even with some transcoding.

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- Grenfur@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I generally do prefer containers. But I’ll be sure to stick to them as much as possible. Thanks for the tips!
  
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ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Proxmox is both easy and powerful so it’s a great choice for self-hosting. Your specs are fine, you’ll run out of disk space first if you want a media center and then you’ll run out of RAM way before your CPU can’t keep up with the work.

I recommend Jellyfin over Plex as well, as a small note.

How many SATA headers do you have on the mobo? If you just move that into an enclosure that can handle a couple of HDDs you’re probably golden. And I bet that Mobo can handle 32 GBs of RAM as well, if not 64? So you have a clear upgrade path before needing additional expensive hardware.

Overall I think it’ll be great! How’s your current network setup? Self-hosting stuff puts some demand on router and wiring that you don’t really have if you don’t selfhost anything.

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- pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Slap an HBA/SATA expander in there and the lack of SATA ports becomes a thing of the past.
  
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  - USSEthernet@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Exactly, you can pick up pretty decent used ones on ebay. I grabbed an LSI 9207-8i for $41 shipped. Plenty of SATA ports now.
    
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- Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  So, I know Jellyfin is the defacto recommendation, but I can’t get it to list anything other than movies and TV shows. It won’t list my comics or ebooks or audio books.
  
  Emby does this right of out the box, but honestly I’d prefer the FOSS option
  
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- Grenfur@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Thanks for the reply! Yes, having a clear upgrade path was a big part of this. Just being able to move forward when needed without replacing stuff for a bit.
  
  I’ll have to look at jellyfin I haven’t dug too deep on the media host yet. Thanks for the heads up :))
  
  Looks like 4 sata headers. So prolly gonna grab some hdds.
  
  As for my network. I have a decent router, though I can’t remember the model at the moment. I’m using a 1gig switch at the moment to split everything through my network. I’m planning to get that upgraded to a 10g next.
  
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  - ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Don’t spend money moving from 1G to 10G if you’re not close to saturating your 1G switch, given you’ve only got one real server then the limiting factor will be the NIC on the server and I can’t imagine an a520 Mobo with anything more than 1G. And buying a PCI NIC for it shouldn’t be a priority if it’s not strictly needed. You’re also going to be limited by your Internet speeds, the HDD speeds and a lot of other factors before you can actually really get good utilization on a 10G Port. I struggle saturating my 2.5G NIC and I run quite a bit of things and have done various benchmark tests and it’s not easy saturating even 1G with real world load. Not to mention all the new ethernet cables you’ll need since most don’t have 10G cables in their setup, but 1G capable cables are fairly standard at least.
    
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  - pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    10g is of course only useful when all your devices have 10g ports. I have 2x 10g NICs in my server and a TP-Link switch that has 8x 1g ports and 2x 10g ports, the only time I would use 10g is between my server and my desktop, and that of course cost me like $100 just for the 10g NIC for my desktop. 10g isn’t really that useful in a home network since most things are limited to 1g. I still can’t believe that my $2700 flat screen from 2017 only has a 10/100 port on it…
    
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hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Unraid (you pay for how many disks you have in your array, you can get the unlimited one for like $119 - would have to double-check but it’s around 100 bucks, it’s not subscription-based, so once you buy it you have it for good). Been using it for years, it’s great and is pretty easy to set up. If you have any questions let me know. They’re constantly improving it.

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- pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Fuck UnRAID and paying to use Debian with a webGUI slapped on top of it. Also they lock you into their platform once you start using their product. Their unRAID form of redundancy is proprietary, so you can’t just slap the same drives into another server and have them work.
  
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- Grenfur@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ohhh I may have to look into unraid then. Didn’t realize there was a one time deal. Thanks for the tips.
  
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Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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Plex Brand of media server package

SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage

SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption

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Fewer Letters	More Letters
Plex	Brand of media server package
SATA	Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SSL	Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption