Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff::The popular developer forum is still hunting for a “path to profitability.”
I can also ask basic, repetitive questions framed exactly to my use case without getting yelled at that the question has been asked and answered before.
and then be provided with a solution of a 10 years old tech that is barely applicable today. But if you read all the answers you may find an up to date suggestion in the comments of a non-accepted answer.
But if you read all the answers you may find an up to date suggestion in the comments of a non-accepted answer.
Honestly this is not bad, if it solves your problem and it took less than 10 minutes of reading overall.
Then if you try to provide a modern solution, get yelled at because ‘not everyone is using the latest version’ even though the modern solution works on everything newer than about 8 years.
The answers on SO are from unpaid contributors.
As if that excuses their behavior on a forum dedicated to learning and solving problems?
Everyone gets annoyed at oft-repeated questions. But the answer is moderation, which is also unpaid.
Not vitriol and skullduggery.
I have never even considered asking a question for that reason.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Stack Overflow used to be every developer’s favorite site for coding help, but with the rise of generative AI like ChatGPT, chatbots can offer more specific help than a 5-year-old forum post ever could.
While no chatbot is 100 percent reliable, code has the unique ability to be instantly verified by just testing it in your IDE (integrated development environment), which makes it an ideal use case for chatbots.
Today, CEO Prashanth Chandrasekar announced Stack Overflow is laying off 28 percent of its staff.
Of course, the great irony of ChatGPT hurting Stack Overflow is that a great deal of the chatbot’s development prowess comes from scraping sites like Stack Overflow.
OpenAI is working on web crawler controls for ChatGPT, which would let sites like Stack Overflow opt out of crawling.
As we’ve seen with chatbots convincing each other that you can “melt eggs,” Chandrasekar has argued that sites like Stack Overflow are essential for chatbots, saying they need "to be trained on something that’s progressing knowledge forward.
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As we’ve seen with chatbots convincing each other that you can “melt eggs,” Chandrasekar has argued that sites like Stack Overflow are essential for chatbots, saying they need "to be trained on something that’s progressing knowledge forward.
Or you know, fact check before you feed it to the AI. You don’t tell a child ‘go google it’ and hope it somehow works out, right? “But then AI could never be profitable.” Oh the irony.
Btw, would a common language model be possible?
I don’t get all the hate and vitriol for StackOverflow. Sure, some people are assholes. Welcome to humanity. At least the system provides for voting to suppress the shit takes and general assholery.
SO combined with Google is usually enough to help me find an answer that either gives the context I need to make a solution or a straight up solution. If people are posting and expecting a super detailed, correct answer in a matter of hours, I think their expectations need adjustment.
I’ve posted very few questions and had decent responses for the majority of them. Is my experience uncommon?
But yeah, layoffs suck, and I hope they find a way to be profitable. Hell, if they do a Patreon-esque model where people can just throw money at them because they appreciate the service, I’d subscribe. (If a similar thing exists that I don’t know about, please link)
Not exactly what I was hoping for, but that works. I can do a bit of answering, per the comments. Thanks!
At-least Chat GPT doesn’t yell at me for asking a question
Angry nerds are a valuable untapped resource if you’re willing to tolerate our impatience
“Apologies for the oversight, here is the corrected version that includes what you were asking for…”
28%? Why, that’s 7 people!
kescusay@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Great. So once Stack Overflow is dead, where will ChatGPT get actual, correct answers from?
orclev@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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See other comment about different company going out of business for totally different reason.
Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
They also went out of business 10 years ago and the market has changed since then.
Murvel@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I mean, the AI can memorize the programming documentation, sweep different github repositories, and the programming itself is already learned behavior.
That’s for programming. As for fault finding, that might get more challenging for the AI without stack overflow.
Asifall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m skeptical that an LLM could answer questions as effectively just with documentation. A big part of the value in stack overflow and similar sites is that the answers provided come from people who have experience with a given technology and have some understanding of the pain points. Often times you can ask the wrong question and still get a useful answer because the context is enough for others to figure out what you might be confused by.
I’m not sure an LLM could do the same just given the docs, but it would be interesting to see how close it could get.