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• segfault@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Currently, BIOS/UEFI is largely under proprietary control

  This is incorrect.

  The UEFI Forum makes specifications freely available at no cost at uefi.org/specifications, and membership is free which would then allow you to redistribute and otherwise use the specs. There are many “open specifications” that require either a one-time purchase of a single specification or a subscription for continued access to a set of specifications, that you of course then cannot share. (PCI-SIG requires a company subscription at $4000 a year to access PCIe related specs.)

  edk2, the reference implementation used on everything with UEFI, is open source (BSD-2-Clause-Patent) and available on GitHub: github.com/tianocore/edk2.

  The problem is not that it’s under proprietary control, it’s that every fucking company forks edk2 into proprietary products because the license allows it (because Intel required it).

  • Most ODMs/IBVs/OEMs are not willing to make their garbage “value-add” components available, let alone source code for them.
  • Many companies are not willing or unable to make available any required datasheets or provide source code for Platform Initialization (such as NDAs for 3rd party components).
  • Intel has not only gone back on its word about making more the FSP open source (FSP also uses edk2), they are trying to take control even more by shoving increasingly more shit into the FSP.

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  • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You basically just proved OP’s point that most our firmware is closed and it’s a problem.

    Wit that said, the nuance you mentioned is good to have, especially that we’re talking about legal stuff here.

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  • OrwellianPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This whole “project” is the very definition of a solution in search of a problem.

      You’re more than welcome to flash whatever bin you want to put together. No one is stopping you. If you want these companies proprietary apis you’re kidding yourself.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m down but its unlikely to change anything. I bought a system76 labtop because I knew it wouldn’t do anything silly.

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  • OrwellianPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • MisterD@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s your opinion on framework computers

      frame.work/ca/en

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I do thing it was a bit over priced but that’s a small price to pay I suppose

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  • ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Define silly? I don’t think they deactivate Intel ME or AMD PSP

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    • ahoneybun@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      On 13th Gen the Intel ME is disabled and 12th Gen are being updated to disable it as well. The AMD PSP is a different thing since there isn’t coreboot for AMD systems.

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• dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So what is the issue with this project libreboot.org

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• Discover5164@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  signed, thank you!

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• nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t want to sound non supportive, but just out of curiosity: why not put the effort into smartphone bootloaders, which are a high bottleneck of locking users and preventing right to repair?

  I mean, while uefi isn’t so tranaparent, we can at least install our os of choice, something usually not possible in phones.

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• tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  software freedom or death

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• TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hah! As if. Low level things like that is reserved for the best state-sponsored malware. We can’t be opening that up and letting users (gasp!) protect themselves.

  It would also undermine the OS security stuff, in the same way that Nintendo Switches were hacked through the bootloader when they first came out. Just have the BIOS tell the OS everything’s ok. So it really, really is a non-starter, as far as the industry is concerned.

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  • OrwellianPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah I understand the benefits - and even want them - but I really don’t see it happening. You mentioned the Intel ME, that was introduced right around the time the NSA started their PRISM program. Between commercial and intelligence interests I don’t think this idea will take off. If anything, state actors have been actively preventing open hardware from being developed and sold commercially.

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  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I want to be able to compile the BIOS and sign it with my own key.

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  • SharkAttak@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On one hand, I fear this could to people trying to have DDR5 speeds on DDR4, but on the other would make easier to spot and fix moronic features like the auto-update on some recent ASUS(?) motherboards.

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• joshuawmurray@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Signed!

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• ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wish there was an alternative to change… they force a subscription to their shit every time you sign

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  • OrwellianPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Iamdanno@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is there any actual evidence that a change.irg petition gets anything changed?

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