Submitted 1 year ago by Blamemeta@lemm.ee to conservative@lemmy.world
Tldr: going after guns, not violence. Remember its the tool not the action
Lmao, laughing at armed Americans from the safety of my European -guns-free-state.
Keep on killing yourselves, United States of America. Keep being united by the hate and fear you feel for everything around you and the world will surely be better in the future /s
Spoken like only a clueless European that thinks what they read is how it actually is here. Sad.
Remind me, how many European toddlers shot another toddler this year?
They probably can’t hear you over the sound of children not getting shot in their schools.
Tldr: going after guns, not violence. Remember its the tool not the action
Complaining is easy. Do you have an actual solution in mind?
That jackass didn’t actually read the release. He summarized the exact opposite of the intent.
That account is a constant source of spewing misinformation, btw.
Oh absolutely. But even if they were correct on the “going after guns not violence” part, it’s still a terrible take.
My solution is that there isn’t a problem with gun violence, there’s a problem with violence.
Violence which is caused by systemic racism.
Violence which is caused by systemic racism.
That’s a big claim. Do you have evidence to support that?
And how do you intend that we solve said systemic racism?
Actual TLDR: -Fund programs to encourage states to adopt red flag & safe storage laws. -Crack down on firearms theft within the common carriers. -Encourage less leeway for FFL errors. -Funding for ballistic analysis studies & a victims of crime fund. -Try to renew undetectable firearms act.
So a shitty federal push for shitty gun control?
You do realize that red flag laws bypass due process, right?
Re read my comments on this thread and tell me where I said otherwise.
It will turn into another blunder just like Ministry of Truth that Bidens woke handlers proposed.
That is just an interesting thing to say. I would like to hear about the experience you had that reinforced your conclusion. Have other people that you know of been influenced by these handlers?
the tool not the action
Why can’t I own a nuke?
You can. Just get the permits from the Dept of Energy, and pay the 200 dollar tax stamp for a destructive device.
Its so expensive, it effectively acts like a ban.
get permits
Huh so theres some strict rules and regulations to obtain a weapon eh 🤔
remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The release says the exact opposite of what you imply in the tldr. If anything, this release outlines an attempted compromise.
We need to keep guns out of the hands of idiots. My neighbors should have been “red flagged” years ago. They have a long history of domestic violence and other drug and alcohol related charges. It probably would have prevented the husband from blowing his wife’s brains out two days ago. In front of a kid, no less.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Red flag laws aren’t about people who currently have convictions. If your neighbors were previously convicted then they probably can’t legally have guns in the first place.
Red flag laws are about taking guns away from someone before they have a conviction/even do anything.
random65837@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I dont think you understand what red flag laws do.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 year ago
So yes, you support red flag laws. No due process, nothing like that, right? Surely that would never back-fire, right? Nope, no ability for it to be abused.
I swear, you leftists just don’t understand that whoever leads today might not be the leader tomorrow.
remotelove@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
FWIW, I basically have a full armory in my basement. Just some context for you, bud.
Also, you are generalizing my political beliefs as “you lefties” or “leftist”. That really makes you look stupid. Comparing my beliefs to your perception of an entire group is a great summary of your mindset.
Multiple convictions of domestic violence, public intoxication and child abuse should have been a red flag. That kid in my real life example should have been separated from that house years ago as well. Don’t try and twist my words for your narrative.
You, as in you, seem to not understand that my rights end where yours begin. Also, there are more big words in the constitution and bill of rights other than “shall not be infringed”. (You seemed like you wanted to say that, but that is speculation.)
When you said the fear mongering point of “how far will they take it”, you fail to realize that there are right and left groups that are fighting for the right to bear arms. I’ll be right there fighting for a persons rights if laws were illegally used.
StarServal@kbin.social 1 year ago
I’m curious to know what you would propose to address the ever increasing gun violence happening in the US. The solution can’t be ‘nothing’ because ‘nothing’ is not working.
Before you reply, understand that I am not the original poster which you replied to and my values, unexpressed as they are, are different from theirs.
HitlerCunnyRape@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t want any more of this faux “compromise” bullshit handed out by gun grabbers. Our rights have been compromised enough with not a single damn thing to show in return. It isn’t a compromise when they just do half of what they want and kick the other half down the road as a loophole they need to close.