Janeway to Tuvix

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• Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think the thing that a lot of people end up missing out of the conversation is whether Janeway wanted to do it or not. The whole point of being Captain is making incredibly tough decisions for what’s best for the entire crew. You can tell in the shot of her walking away that she is extremely upset by what she just had to do. The ordering of it was bad enough but then her effectively executing him herself? In the Janeway Memoir, Janeway even says that she’s been haunted by the decision ever since she made it. Wondering whether or not what she did was right. It’s not like she was skipping down to Sickbay to repeatedly shank Tuvix with a sharp rock that fell from a bridge console.

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  • Flyberius@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a complex episode that epitomises the very best of Star Trek writing.

    However, what is telling is how a minority of fans think that because Neelix and Tuvok died in an accident, Tuvix needs to die in order to set that right.

    Morally, I think it is wrong to sacrifice Tuvix and that they are a living being with a right to exist regardless of what accidents and what deaths preceded their creation. If I was in Janeway’s position I wouldn’t have made her choice, but I can understand why don’t people might have, and Bern terribly haunted by their own decision. Though I would still disagree with it.

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    • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If I was in Janeway’s position I wouldn’t have made her choice, but I can understand why some people might have, and consequently been terribly haunted by their own decision. Though I would still disagree with it.

      And that’s why your very first sentence is so perfect.

      It’s a complex episode that epitomises the very best of Star Trek writing.

      Star Trek is fuckin awesome.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think the reasoning is pretty solid, stemming from the many vs the one.

  Keeping Tuvix saves 1 person. Removing the plant and splitting Tuvok and Neelix back saves 2.

  2>1.

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