Turing speculated that acting human would be the best indication of humanlike thought, but a better indication would be the inability to act otherwise.

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• FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But that would make fascists inhuman!

  Oh wait…

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That doesn’t make any logical sense because even very young children are adept at pretending not to be human…

  Like, I know what you’re trying to say, I’m just struggling to understand how you think it’s sensical

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I would assume that, since humans sometimes pretend to not be human, that would simply be a subset of human behavior, and so what would make the comment make the most sense wouldn’t be “looking for behavior atypical for humans”, but rather " looking for behavior that humans arent able to engage in no matter how hard they try". What that would even be in a text based system though, I’m not sure. Typing impossibly fast maybe?

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I was thinking of the example of syntax: the ability of LLMs to produce syntactic sentences is taken as evidence that they’re producing sentences the same way humans do, but LLMs can also (with training) produce sentences in artificial languages whose syntax is totally unnatural to humans.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I see what you’re saying but I think the problem is that you would need to test an AI while it’s unaware of being tested, or use a novel trick that it’s unaware of, to try and catch it producing non-human output.

      If it’s aware that it’s being tested, then presumably it will try to pass the test and try to limit itself to human cognition to do so.

      i.e. It’s possible that an AI’s intelligence includes enough human-like intelligence to completely mimic a human and pass a Turing test, but not enough to know to keep to those boundaries; but it’s also possible that it both know enough to mimic us and enough to keep to our bounds.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’ve edited this comment at least 3 times since I’ve replied, each time with more random shit that doesn’t make any sense. You just keep thumbing thru a thesaurus and replacing words with bigger words you clearly don’t understad.

      This is probably why your posts/comments don’t make sense. Stop trying to sound intelligent and focus on communicating your point. But I don’t have the patience to ever try and explain anything to you again.

      Best of luck.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Literally the opposite of a turning test… Which it’s pretty clear you don’t understand those to begin with…

      And has nothing to do with your post

      Why are people upvoting that gibberish? Do they just don’t understand it and are blindly up voting?

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• Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Fantastic shower thought.

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