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Bit flips: How cosmic rays grounded a fleet of aircraft

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨undead_falco@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251201-how-cosmic-rays-grounded-thousands-of-aircraft

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  • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Things from outer space are confusing our thinking sand! Our flying metal was disturbed! Quick! We need to teach the thinking sand a better way of thinking!

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In the past we have our thinking sand armored shells. But these days we should consider imbuing the thinking sand with an artificial soul, so it can using the distilled knowledge of man to decide how best to defend itself from the things from outer space. Sure, the thinking sand may daydream and momentarily see mankind as the enemy, but only sometimes.

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      • Little8Lost@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        But what if instead we do all the new stuff we just put three thinking sands in a trenchcoat and let them do the same

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  • Devial@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s not going to be become a major problem. We have radiation hardened computing hardware, and ways to deal with single event effects, we’ve in fact got a lot of practice doing these things, because guess what: Satellites also need working computing hardware, and they’re exposed to orders of magnitude more radiation than aircraft.

    Manufacturers will just have to start taking it into consideration more in the future, and ensure that the flight computers have redundant ECC memory.

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    • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, but the problem is, they don’t. They didn’t think it would be a problem and now it’s a fucking problem.

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      • Devial@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It happened once, to one aircraft, and it’s solvable with a software update.

        You’re more likely to be struck by lightning the next time you leave your house than to run into this problem on a flight, and that was before the software update.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And eventually “we” might come to the thought that for many things analog computing is enough. Symbolic calculation, cryptography and such, of course, need digital. But when we are talking about airplanes and satellites, perhaps not.

      One thing I somewhat like about the general idea of all those LLMs is that in theory they are closer to something that can work on non-deterministic technology.

      I wonder if some sort of FPGA but for analog circuits is possible. To have the advantages of re-configuration that programmable things have, but also advantages of continuous signals.

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  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This can cause a cascade of particles to rain down through our atmosphere, like throwing marbles across a table.

    Fucking pardon me? I’m no rocket surgeon but that’s not how it works.

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    • MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Its not a bad start to an analogy explaining it but old mate Chris Baraniuk needs to string it out a bit more to make any sense.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    …disrupt tiny bits of data stored in the computer’s memory, switching that bit – often represented as a 0 or 1 – from one state to another.

    Top notch science journalism there.

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    • Devial@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This isn’t a scientific journal or news paper. It’s a main stream article by the BBC, intended to be consumed, and understood, by people who have zero knowledge of how computers, bits or binary numbers work, so I really don’t see the issue here.

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      • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And, if the top levels of the BBC weren’t staffed with time-serving Conservative Party appointees who spend all their time interfering in politics, they could get their journalists to fact-check their articles by asking someone who knows what the fuck they’re talking about.

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      • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So what do bits represent then, if not ones and zeros?

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