Media Liberation Day: how can we help newcomers get started and have a good experience on fedi?

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• avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  and have a good experience on fedi?

  Be excellent to newcomers and each other!

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Probably just by having fun in your own communities and in general. When people see a group of people laughing and posting memes its naturally a place they want to lurk and join in on. I think the worst part we can do is give long winded explanations of federation. Best just keep it simple and tell them to join a generic server

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Definitely. Just point them to whatever server you like and call it a day. I use https://piefed.zip, but that’s me, other people prefer other servers.

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    • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would tweak that a hair and tell people just to make an account somewhere and observe for a bit. Lemmy can have some very distinct groups that reside on very specific instances. Or not. It’s a “pick your adventure” kind of scenario, IMHO.

      It took about six months or so for me to settle into .ca after bouncing around a bit. It’s not really a pain to switch instances, but I personally like my chat history in one spot.

      Depending on your client and your settings, your feed could have a bias that leans in the direction of the posts on your home instance, so that is something of note. Not saying that is bad or good, it’s just is what it is.

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• aasatru@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think engaging with people on a human level rather than giving unsolicited advice on how to use fediverse to every new face around could be a place to start. Half the time I see a new user here they seem to get flooded with technical advice that, while well-meaning, is somewhat off-putting.

  A simple "Welcome! Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions about how to make the most of your time here" is plenty for most people. And if they do ask questions, go wild.

  Is there a good community in which newcommers can ask basic questions, like a no stupid questions help desk edition? Like a fedi help desk community? I feel like that could be useful to point people to.

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  • thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Great point … it comes from a good place but all the suggestions can be really overwhelming (especially when they sometimes contradict each other).

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• otter@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I would say the main thing is being nice and letting people explore, and providing spaces/communities for people to come back and ask questions when they have them. When people bring up issues or suggest things that they want to see, we shouldn’t crap on what they prefer their online experience to be (ex. preferred algorithms, content they want to block, etc.)

  Resources wise, we created this guide and I like to link these two particular pages for fediverse/lemmy. I feel that they help give a high level overview of how things work:

  • fedecan.ca/en/guide/get-started
  • fedecan.ca/en/guide/lemmy/…/detailed-overview

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  • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Those guides are quite helpful!

    We started !newcomers@piefed.zip a few weeks ago but still have to add more content to it @skavau@piefed.social

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    • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh on that note, would it be helpful to lock and redirect !newtopiefed@piefed.ca to that community?

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    • thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      good to know, I’ll include i link to it!

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  • Sarah@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As a digital comms and usability professional, I’d suggest you do some testing and refinement of these materials. I commend your efforts but these are not something I would ever hand out to a 50yr old volunteer if I want them to sign up to use a fedi community instead of

    “When you want to send an email, you don’t need to use the same email provider as the person you’re sending it to.” is not a helpful thing for a newbie (though I understand why you have included it)… This sort of content indicates the gulf between the (user’s) mental model and the (system designer’s) conceptual design is too great.

    I have students who can help you with this stuff for free. If you’re interested, DM me.

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    • Blaze@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thank you for offering !

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  • thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks – those are useful guides, I’ll include links to them.

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• Sarah@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  For devs and admins:

  Do some usability testing and improvement
  - Recruit volunteer UX / usability professionals to run studies with users and recommend usability improvements.
  - Be prepared for some critical feedback.
  - Organise and prioritise the feedback
  - Recruit some volunteer UI designers, graphic designers and devs with experience of working with UXers to refine and implement the usability fixes

  Provide more user-friendly onboarding, signup, sign-in, password management etc. The barriers are very high even for those of us with good tech confidence.

  Provide better approaches and platforms for small groups (volunteer organisations, hobby and interest groups and neighbourhoods) to replace Facebook Groups and similar.

  Gain more experience of working with non-tech users, e.g. volunteer at your local library, seniors’ IT classes, to understand the challenges that 80% of users would face in using fedi products and gain some insights into how to resolve those issues

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  • thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Great suggestions, thanks very much!

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