A fediverse platform that lets you block whole topics, not just communities?

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• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Keyword blocking works on piefed. As long as people add image descriptions, it works well even on the meme communities.

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• Skavau@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  PieFed let you follow/block keywords, but that’s not the same as robust, community-wide topic blocking. Imagine collaborative, booru-style tagging across posts so blocking a tag reliably removes all content using it.

  This would require a fediverse platform that has a built-in, accurate tagging system. So no under that basis.

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• M1ch431@slrpnk.net ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Here’s hoping keyword blocking hits Lemmy/my instance is able to facilitate its planned switch to PieFed without a hitch in the future. I used to use that feature extensively on Reddit (with RES) to great success and minimal effort.

  However, I’m not a fan of centralized crowdsourced tagging. Topic tagging is significantly more subjective than e.g. the functionality provided by crowdsourced extensions like SponsorBlock and will likely significantly reduce/fragment engagement if shared blocklists become widely adopted. Imagine somebody tagging something inappropriately to soft-censor certain posts to groups of users… there are many scenarios that this could be misused if improperly designed or implemented.

  There is an argument to made towards making flairs a thing on a post/community-level and allow blocking from that. It’d be neat to filter memes, for example.

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• rozodru@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Piefed does this. haven’t seen any posts about Elon Musk in awhile.

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• lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t feel something like crowdsourced tagging would work for the Fediverse unless it has some sort of approval system built for either post’s author or commuity admins (and those are already busy). Otherwise it would be far too easy to do things like brigading, or pushing government-style “self-censorship” (or straight out censorship of others: just get an army of bots “volunteers” into one instance, let the resulting blocks federate). Something closer to AO3 style tagging, where the author retains most control but readers can add tags to things that are valid only to them (and maybe to people they share data with too?) should workbetter IMO.

  Blocking keywords is not reliable to block topics because a keyword does not a topic make, for example in this post I mention queer, socialism, musk and islam yet it’s not topical to any of those things.

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  • Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think moderating tags is the same as any other moderation. If there are brigades, you can revert all tag changes made by the brigading users the same way you can remove all content posted by a user when banning them.

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• Snoopy@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Mmm not sure how it will be managed. It depends whom you trust.

  On our jlai.lu chat (https://jlailu.zulipchat.com) we have a section that has a list of keyword to remove all post related to MAGA and far right. It gives us a peace of mind.

  Imho, you may suggest a git, put your blocklist and invit some people to edit it. Honnestly, i think it is safer to handle personnaly because you know what’s inside. But i may be wrong

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Does anyone know of software that already provides topic-level blocking out of the box without needing long manual lists?

  yep, reddit, facebook, twitter...

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  • Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You don’t seem to get my point. For a platform to let me reliably filter a whole topic, the majority of posts need to be tagged with that topic first. Reddit/Facebook don’t do that, they have communities and loose categories, not consistent topic tags across all posts. Twitter only partially does it with hashtags, and hashtags are neither comprehensive nor applied consistently. I’m talking about platform-level, booru-style or collaborative tagging so blocking a tag actually removes the tagged content without me having to unsubscribe from dozens of communities or build giant keyword lists.

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    • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Imo it might be easier to collaboratively build keyword lists. It’s tedious to tag posts manually, and it becomes impossible to do it effectively after the user base grows past a certain point. You can auto-remove any post that isn’t tagged, but a lot of people dislike that kind of filtering and only a few communities would implement something like that

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• Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That would be easier implemented with microblogging tagging, and the only thread-based platform that uses tags is Mbin afaik. However, even in it you can't still block tags. Maybe poke the devs of Mbin to implement it?

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