Submitted 6 months ago by trashgarbage78@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
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The users on here tend to be against learning with LLMs. They usually say prompts make you a spoon-fed idiot etc. But you guys realize that AI is being brought into the education system with Trump? Are you all unsatisfied with life because of LLMs? Are we doomed?
Spoonfed idiots will not develop thinking skills. Reading the crib notes/ ai summaries will not make a theoretical genius, just a knowledge monkey. Plus, most of the content still needs to be filtered.
why the ai artwork. it adds nothing
I have seen no evidence that we as a species in general will be able to harness LLMs for good.
I think that the general idea of artificial intelligence in education hold some promise, in the sense that if you could construct a machine that can do much of the work of a teacher, it should enable kids to be taught in an individual way currently only possible for those rich enough to afford a private tutor, and such a machine would be labeled as an AI of some kind. The trouble is, like with so many other things AI, that our AI technology just doesn’t seem to be up to the task, and probably just won’t be without some new approach. We have AI just smart enough for people to try to do all the things that one could use an AI for, but not smart enough for the AI to actually do the job well.
A few months ago now, Arizona? Arkansas maybe? Some state legalized “AI powered” home schooling systems. But it was mostly clickbait and the system is less like ChatGPT and more like the YouTube Algorithm machine learning. It takes into account the stuff that students do well at and let’s them advance beyond “grade level” limitations while also learning how to present problem areas in ways the student responds to.
I had asked my home schooled AI researcher buddy his thoughts and he obviously liked it. I like the idea too, but my hang up was on socializing kids. That to me is the more important role of schools.
I wouldn’t trust an LLM in this set up though. A human tutor would still need to step in for questions outside of a FAQ IMO. I love working with an LLM by giving it all the manuals, guides, and config files I used then asking where I went wrong because it can usually give me a good enough interpretation to see where to go next. But that’s just a rubber duck. My mind and skills are developed. A kid learning math for Tue first time can’t do that.
Anytime you present info to people without them having to digest, comprehend and formulate ideas, you remove opportunity for learning and dementing ideas. Kids copy pasting from LLM to fill in answers is just going to be mindless drol. USA already lacks education, thus why they have denied science, defunded education dwpartment, and are removing vaccine mandates. At this rate USA will slide into the Idiocracy movie plot quickly.
Education needs to move with the times. “AI”, LLMs, etc are not going away and they’re only going to become more and more integrated into everyday life. Kids need to be taught how to use them, and most importantly that they’re not 100% correct all or even most of the time.
If you don’t teach them these things then you end up with people like we have now - mindlessly believing everything they say, and believing that they are “alive” and have feelings and relationships.
Just like a calculator, a laptop, and a bunsen burner - they’re a tool. If you operate them wrong you’ll get incorrect results that might look and sound right.
The entire education system in most countries needs an overhaul to be more relevant for the world we live in. There should be no student coming out of school that doesn’t understand how interest and loans work, or the basics of taxes a normal person has to navigate, for example. LLMs and their accuracy/inaccuracy should be another. Assessments also need to change - closed book stuff basically shouldn’t exist for maths for example, and take home essays should be a thing of the past. They have no place in the current world.
Education needs to move with the times. “AI”, LLMs, etc are not going away and they’re only going to become more and more integrated into everyday life.
Every time I see this I just see capitulation to society's ruin. "Just bend over and take it!"
I don’t disagree about learning how to use them, but we already have lazy uni students using it to write their papers and they exit uni not knowing how to think critically or how to formulate ideas properly
TheFogan@programming.dev 6 months ago
It’s OK the secretary of education was only promoting steak sauce in the classrooms.