Wafrn (tumblr alternative with fediverse and bluesky support) has started using an alternate relay; this means that they depend on none of bluesky's infrastructure to work.

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

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Bluesky post by @gabboman.at.app.wafrn.net saying: “Thanks a lot to @rudyfraser.com for hosting the blacksky PDS. After confirmating thatis ok, wafrn now uses blacksky’s relay! In the next update other wafrns may also use the relay”

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mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Oh good. One step closer to real federation. With multiple protocols. AP + AT.

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- m33@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Meh, the one and only walking protocol is AT-AT
  
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- irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  What do you mean by real federation?
  
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  - arudesalad@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Right now federation between atproto and activitypub is opt in (and not developed by the big platforms such as bluesky and mastodon) with bridgyfed.
    
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MxRemy@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
As a non-techy person, I was under the impression from lots of fedi folks that it would either cost a fortune or otherwise be quite impractical to completely divorce ATProto from bluesky itself. However, as a WAFRN enjoyer, Gabbo seems to really know what he's doing, and he actually prefers ATProto over AP... What's the actual deal here?? Is it easier than expected somehow?

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- irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  A lot of people’s research about bluesky is just the “How decentralised is bluesky really?” article by Christine lemmer-webber.
  While the article was good at the time, and still has some relevant parts, a lot has changed since then.
  
  Namely, relays got cheaper to run (about $30 a month).
  Right now the problem is that everyone uses bluesky’s infrastructure (and PDS migration is a bit spotty, but bluesky is working on that).
  
  Also: AP is pain. The spec was rushed and doesn’t include a lot of key details. Atproto was better thought out (at least in my opinion).
  
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- ctry21@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I saw it mentioned in this Cory Doctorow article a week or two back about some of his issues with bluesky, but he mentions here that the cost has came down from tens of millions a year down to tens of dollars a month
  
  Hadn’t heard of wafrn until seeing it on f-droid this morning but I might give it a try, a tumblr-like platform would be nice since tumblr seems to have given up on using ActivityPub.
  
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- Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
  
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  - gabboman@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
    
    well I wont get that if YOU dont join
    
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  - mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Yep it should be spread out as much as possible.
    
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Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Here’s a link app.wafrn.net

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- irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  oh yeah, probably should have linked it.
  
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