Submitted 2 days ago by SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world to conservative@sh.itjust.works
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34826497
Maybe the people who should be afraid of concealed handguns are the criminals who might be shot by them. That’s the whole point. Defensive gun usage statistics are sparse whether due to people being scared to report what may be seen as a crime on their part, or it not being a tracked statistic in their jurisdiction.
Unless you are in a position where you are aware something worth defending yourself with a gun is happening, and you have enough time to access that gun, and ready yourself, you will likely not get to use it to defend yourself. In fact, if someone, willing to do a stick-up, notices something that tips them off to you having a gun, you become a more desirable target, guns are expensive, and easy to fence. They will have their gun drawn before you really notice they are there, then it is very unlikely trying to defend yourself will do anything but get you shot.
You’d think that, and then a guy pulls a knife on you and your GF in a walmart parking lot. You have ample time to get to your belt, in fact you have so much time that when time you touch the grip you can give him the “you sure?” look without even pulling it, and he can go “sure not” and turn and walk away to rob someone else. Happened to me, went in and bought my bread instead of whatever that guy had in mind.
Just because sometimes you’re in a Kobayashi Maru and phasers won’t help doesn’t mean you never need phasers or that they never help.
That’s why it’s concealed. The robber doesn’t know who has a gun, unless they’re banned, then they’re safe.
I used the Forbes article specifically because most will be from what you will call biased sources, but it’s an issue where both sides have their own narrative and looking at the data that one side has while discounting the other is gets you lies.
I know that you’re more likely to shoot friends or family with a defensive home gun then any home invaders.
Good. An armed society is a polite society. Guns are the great equaliser. Larger and stronger people aren’t free to assault smaller and weaker people as they wish. There are societies like Singapore and China where crime is punished so severely that people don’t need personal protection. Sadly, today, that’s not how most of the West is run.
Polite isn’t the same as fear. Also both your catchphrases are right wing NRA bullshit propaganda which isn’t remotely true.
If the government won’t protect citizens they have the right to protect themselves.
I’m not American and I don’t care how much you like or dislike the NRA. Your comment sounds like authoritarian bootlicking.
There is – as far as I’m aware – no good data to suggest any of this is true. The severity of punishment has no correlative link let alone causative link to crime rate. As for “politeness” I don’t even know how to tackle this, I know Japan and Canada are considered “polite” by public opinion and both have stricter gun regulation than US. And as for the great equalizer claim while I can see that theoretically it could be an equalizer of force that would only be the case if the “weak” were as likely to have a gun as the “strong”. If we simply compare women to men – since women are often physically weaker than men – we see the gun ownership rates skew heavily towards men. So if anything in that context not only is it not equalizing it is further dividing the gap between the weak and the strong in this context.
Guns don’t create a more polite society, they create a more fearful society.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 days ago
Good.
Make those elitist corporate executives feel uncomfortable. Make those billionaires fear you. Make those MAGA dipshits who don't believe in your personal choices should be allowed.
Make the conservatives who constantly vote against your interests and want to erase you and your culture because it makes their magic sky wizard angry, make them all fear you.
They won't stop unless you deter them with promises of violence, which is what the fucking point of being armed is supposed to do
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 days ago
You think billionaires are going to care if you have a gun or not?
Spoiler but if they cared you wouldn’t have the right to a gun anymore.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 days ago
I dunno, dude. After Luigi killed that one healthcare executive, more and more people with money are tugging their own collars from how easy it is to track, pursue, and execute a billionaire in broad daylight. Im assuming you live under a rock and/or sheltered. Love your user name, btw