EU passes law to blanket highways with fast EV chargers by 2025

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is great, and ambitious.

  I wish it was more ambitious with a fatter timeline.

  I’d rather see passive charging lanes added by 2030 or something.

  But again, this is great.

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• soyagi@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In places that don’t have EV chargers currently, will it be the state’s responsibility to install them?

  On Finland’s highways highlighted on the ball in that article, there are a lot of existing gas stations that have EV chargers. But there can easily be more than a 60km gap, especially the further north you go. Is it down to the state, local municipality, or EU to fund it?

  Furthermore, if a commercial provider, like a gas station shuts down, would some authority be required to at least keep the EV chargers running?

  How is the 60km distance calculated? From existing EV chargers? If a gas station closes, the measuring point to/from the next/previous EV charger will change.

  I can’t imagine the state will want to install EV chargers every 60km in addition to the ones already provided by commercial enterprises such as gas stations. Will they be required to?

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  • brewery@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It says in the article ‘Lightly trafficked roads or locations that just don’t make socio-economic sense can be excluded from the requirement’ for the comprehensive network.

    It’ll be up to each country how they decide to implement it. In some countries the core roads are managed by a central government agency so they would need to arrange it. In others it is the the local municipalities or privatised. Some countries will offer to private companies. Others will provide it themselves. The governments would be ultimately responsible but Im sure they can manage this given they already have responsibilities about maintaining the roads and rest areas. In the worst case they might have to pay for some infrastructure themselves but can make it back with the charges.

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• MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Seriously. Do people really think EVs will save us from climate change? They are hardly good for the environment. There’s already a sustainable EV, it’s called a train.

  And don’t get me started on electrical scooters… How is that more sustainable than a bike…

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  • Chipthemonk@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Although I like big public transportation options, cars are also awesome and won’t be going anywhere for the foreseeable future. I’d rather have electric cars than gas cars as we can generate renewable electricity but not renewable gas.

    I’ve seen your argument a few times now. In San Francisco, some folk are protesting self driving cars with cones because they want more public transportation infrastructure. Again, I’m sympathetic—I love public infrastructure. But improving public transportation doesn’t have to be antithetical to EVs.

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    • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the problem with cars is still like 30-50% of usable area is converted into roads and parking, which means things are 30-50% further apart, which means it takes at least 30%+ longer for people to complete a transportation loop, which creates 30%+ more traffic while putting more people out of walking distance.

      This compounding effect of parking really means cities without alternatives to cars result in higher housing costs, more wasted space, and more congestion than cities with less dedicated car infrastructure, and it raises agricultural prices as farmers compete with suburbs for land.

      Its one of the deep inefficiencies of the american “cars only” system of transit.

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• diyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anyone know how the price of electricity from these chargers compares to prices in the home?

  I just wonder about possible non-car use-cases. E.g. someone is off the grid and they use a cargo cycle to bring batteries¹ to one of these charging stations. Will they be fleeced on price, or are there subsidies that could perhaps make the cost lower than household electric?

  ① asking w.r.t. both lead-acid batteries and li-ion, though I suspect these chargers would be li-ion only.

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  • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Currently these charge points cost more than at home, and i believe it will stay this way. There is more overhead and more companies connected to the highway chargers so more people looking to make a profit. There is also the fact that currently ( and thats what these laws want to change ), you need some kind of subscription to use these public chargers, so even more costs :)

    Dont get me wrong though, its not like public charging is like 2€/kW vs 0.35kW at home, but there is like a 10c/kW difference

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• DrinkBoba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Another good move EU!!

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• bigkix@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Where will solar panels and wind turbines for powering those chargers be located at?

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  • sirjash@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not in Bavaria, that’s for sure!

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  • Chipthemonk@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nuclear a power, when done right, is highly efficient.

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