FTC is seeking public comments on an ESRB proposal to use facial recognition for COPPA verification.

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Carighan@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

This seems… wild.

Although, it’s important to keep in mind that this is in the context of COPPA consent, which already required photo ID by the parent for children under the age of 13.

Still, I cannot see this truly going well. It’s smarter than just a picture, sure. But it’s done by a VC-funded private company and by Epic. I’d give it about 12 minutes until archives of thousands of uploaded mini-videos for verification appear on the net, probably public because someone forgot to properly patch the web server.

However to not go all crazy on it: This also opens up the can of “How do we do smarter online age verification, anyways?”. AI-based facial recognition isn’t a sensible one if you ask me, but we need a better way as other countries have already ruled that simply putting in your age or clicking an “i’m 18+”-button is not legally binding and hence cannot be used as verifiable age verification.

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Amilo159@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Just say no

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- DecentralizeTheWorld@lemmy.whynotdrs.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Say no where it counts!
  
  federalregister.gov/…/childrens-online-privacy-pr…
  
  Leave a public comment! This is how we make our voice heard while saying NO!
  
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scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
God forbid parents take any responsibility here and admit they just need to vet games more. Why is it not mentioned in that article at all how kids are purchasing games now? There are age settings for digital purchases already, if they’re set to a an adult account let’s hold the parents responsible rather than punishing everyone else

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kapx132@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
In the EU google forces you to upload your id for verification if you want to watch age restricted yt videos. if games also do that then im going back to 1990-2015 games.

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Boinketh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The article is vague. If this goes through, will it require everyone to upload pictures of themselves, or just people who have accounts with parental controls on game stores?

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- Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  From what I understand, this is about COPPA consent.
  
  So it’d be that if a child <13y tries to access X, it’d require that a parent use a specific app to provide that facial recognition to verify them as “Oh yeah you’re 25y+ according to our AI so we believe you could actually be the parent”, and then click that they give consent. At least that’s how I understand the technology.
  
  What worries me is that they say that “Misjudgement by the AI based on skin tone or looks will not be a significant problem”. Which it historically has been with stuff like this. Just need a mother with small breasts that are in the video the AI sees and it’ll probably make her younger based on that fact.
  
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  - Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I just dislike the government oversight on things done at home. I’m not one for politics typically, but I feel like it’s the parents’ duty to curate what their child sees and that should be that. I just don’t think that on top of that there should be a government verification for the parent. That’s more than a little ridiculous to me.
    
    Not to mention all the sort of privacy concerns that arise with a system like this.
    
    And it still doesn’t address the fact that kids can still just lie and say they’re +18 on a sign up page. I knew many people that did this growing up.
    
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  - kapx132@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    “Misjudgement by the AI based on skin tone or looks will not be a significant problem”
    
    or people with genetical conditions such as down syndrome
    
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