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The UK failed grooming gang victims by not seeing ‘children as children’

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨unitedkingdom@feddit.uk⁩

https://theconversation.com/the-uk-failed-grooming-gang-victims-by-not-seeing-children-as-children-259098

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  • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s amazing that this is being brought to light now as a labour problem, even though the conservatives knew about it in their near 2 decade reign

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  • Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Didn’t they fail them by being extremely racist and saying that brown people can’t help themselves? I think this is downplaying the problem.

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    • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They used the “we didn’t want to be seen as racist” excuse to ignore the problem because they were misogynistic arseholes who ignored girls they saw as “sluts”.

      Like the police were ever afraid to be racist.

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      • FarceOfWill@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Some of it still looks a little like corruption to me.

        There’s a huge report on this with more detail than anyone could reasonably read, somewhere way back in my comment history on Reddit. The way the problem was moved off to cross force specialised teams and then sat on is very odd, but could just be disorganisaton

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    • brewery@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It was more of a class and misogyny problem, which due to cultural reasons these groups of men were able to take advantage. There’s a story of police being called to a disturbance and found a group of older guys (mostly south Asian but there was a white guy too) with two teenage (I think about 15) drunk, working class girls. Instead of stepping back and thinking there’s something very strange going on here and seeing those girls as victims, who were vulnerable, potentially being groomed and obviously being taken advantage of, they arrested the girls for drunk and disorderly, were apologetic to the men and didn’t even record the names of those men.

      Statistically in the UK, most grooming and sexual violence is some by family members or family friends, against both boys and girls, and are perpetrated by white people simply because the UK is still 83% white! If any of these people truly cared about vulnerable children, they would focus on more than just these grooming gangs but that doesn’t rile up their base, get more likes and give them more support. Yeah, these horrible men need to be arrested and put away but let’s set up systems that try to prevent these children being harmed in the first place.

      This article is talking about the wider problems of children not being seen as victims, and agencies not communicating with each other. Whether it’s a black boy arrested for carrying drugs or a white girl ignored as being “promiscuous”, there are systemic issues in our system that need to be addressed.

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      • Denjin@lemmings.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The recent furore around grooming gangs has nothing to do with the victims. There has already been a review and an enquiry and all the results are there to be analysed.

        None of the recommendations Baroness Casey put forward have been implemented.

        It’s political point scoring by Farage, Badenoch, and for some reason, Elon Musk. Any talking point that can be twisted into “Brown people bad” will be exploited for cheap points and forgotten about 5 minutes later.

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      • Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        the UK is still 83% white!

        Is that a problem?

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