Submitted 2 days ago by TheSaltyPenguin@piefed.social to newcommunities@lemmy.world
Cancel Lemmy is a community on piefed which has the goal of being a space where people can discuss moving away from Lemmy, alternatives to Lemmy, and just general problems with Lemmy as a software and ecosystem. People are even free to discuss problems with the current management of Lemmy. If you have grievances or wish that more servers would just move on from Lemmy this is the community for you.
Its just another move by either big tech themselves or lost people who pick up the forks for their masters.
I get it, lemmy devs are the big bad communists (everyone who watches news knows that socialism/communism are the least of our problems rn, au contraire!) And some of them have bad opinions apparently, boo-fucking-hoo.
They went ahead and made this place without even getting paid for it for a long time and they’re great to interact with from my pov.
So no, we dont want to cancel lemmy.
Thanks for posting this! Saves me from waiting until I see it in my All feed collection to block it.
If I’m all for discussing and criticizing, the ‘Cancel’ part is most certainly not something I’m interested in or would want to be a part of. Maybe it’s just a poor naming choice?
Yeah, I’d be interested in something like “!lemmyalternatives”, but “cancel lemmy” just seems blatently and pointlessly antagonistic.
Beyond Lemmy might have been a better naming option…Cancel, reads, harsh & insulting to the devs who have created this space, & those who enjoy & appreciate it…
I think I'd rather do something constructive than in-fight on the Fediverse. Sure, Lemmy isn't perfect. Not at all. I'd say love it for creating this online-space and pioneering the threaded conversations to some degree, hate the bad things about it. But don't make this about hate itself or fighting. Instead, focus on constructivism and to create something positive. Focusing on the negativity (and even attracting such people by naming things a certain way) isn't a good approach for that, if you ask me.
And this isn’t the idea behind Piefed.
Definitely
Let me know when PieFed finds itself with a half decent frontend.
Why?
PieFed is an entirely different software package that’s compatible with Lemmy.
Lemmy is written in Rust, Mbin in PHP, PieFed in Python, and Sublinks — not sure if that’s going to go anywhere — in Java.
I'll also comment to say that the "cancel" part of this is stupid and should be reconsidered. (There seems to be a pretty thorough consensus on that). Isn't the whole point of this to have options, to spread the resources out to as many points as possible to prevent a single point of failure, corruption, or censorship?
I ended up at Piefed, because I'm interested in self-hosting, and I understand Python more than any of the other languages represented. That's really the full depth of my choice, and I'm not sure there should be much more thought behind it other than "How does this particular software package perform and meet my needs?"
I’m gonna say Python is not the correct choice here, when Lemmy can already get sluggish. Cancel PieFed? /s
PHP was a weird choice for anything in the 2020’s, but Mbin is defunct anyway.
I’m all aboard with new communities and new infrastructures, the more projects the best is for the whole structure.
That said, if your advertisement strategy is “we’re not Lemmy”, then no thanks. Everyone can do that.
Be more proactive, do something Lemmy doesn’t, and then we’ll talk about it.
That said, if your advertisement strategy is “we’re not Lemmy”, then no thanks
The Kamala Harris Gambit
tal@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Speaking for myself, while I’m not really happy about some of the political baggage associated with the lemmy dev team, and I would be interested in participating in discussion about non-lemmy server alternatives, I don’t really want to jump into something named quite as adversarially as “cancel_lemmy”.
That’s not to say that there isn’t potentially demand for and interest in this. It just crosses the line into getting more political on the matter than I’d like to be. But I would like to point out that it may be that there are other people who feel the same way, and might exclude some users who would otherwise participate.