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“This is a huge moment for creators and their businesses,” - Patreon will update its iPhone app to sidestep Apple’s payment system. Patreon was forced to pay 30% fees

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨dwazou@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theverge.com/news/659754/patreon-update-iphone-ios-app-apple-payment-system-ruling

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  • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Good. If I download an app with the intent to pay a content creator who uses that app to post content, I don’t see why my choice of app store should have any bearing on how much of that money goes to the content creator, nor why the company who hosts that app on their store should get any income from said internal payments whatsoever. Patreon (and everyone else) already pays Apple to simply host the app in their store. Apple is double-dipping by doing this and throwing an absolute fit comparable to that of a toddler who was just told “no”.

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    • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Anyone who cares could have just gone to the website to make their payment but the real fucked up thing is that Apple ToS prevents them from disclosing that.

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Wow. That’s pretty shitty.

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      • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They did disclose it, though. I got popups every time I logged in for weeks warning of the imminent additional cut Apple was going to take from donators/creators, which explicitly spelled out that payments made via other platforms would not be affected by this cut.

        Maybe they were prevented from doing so in the iOS app, but they sure did it everywhere else.

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  • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I didn’t even know Patreon had a mobile app. To me, Patreon is just one of those Big Adult Things you have to do on a computer. Seems to work just fine on mobile browser (Firefox for Android) though. Apple being mega greedy as usual.

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    • UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      As someone who attempts to watch content on the iOS app, it’s a massive pile of shit and you’re right to use the browser only

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    • oppy1984@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The change from pay per episode to per month was a direct result of crApple’s 30% tax. This hurt Patreon directly because a bunch of creators were pissed about the change and blamed Patreon for not fighting back, so they left. So Patreon has lost revenue over this, how much I have no idea but I know several of the podcasts I listen to have stopped asking you to pay via Patreon and are now asking you to donate via Substack or their private donation page.

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  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Fuck closed off mobile stores, it’s all a scam.

    Why are we ceding control over our personal computers to organizations who would limit our use of them?

    If we have platforms capable of running arbitrary code then we should be able to do it.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      This is exactly it. It feels like about 99% of the crap these companies are pushing has no reason to be an app. Patreon is already primarily a web page. I guarantee you everything anyone cares about in the app you can do on the mobile version of the web page. Without being locked to the App Store/Google Play, and on (practically) any device. Isn’t that what these companies should want in the first place? Totally device and platform agnostic, ready for the maximum amount of suckers potential paying customers to be able to access it?

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  • pelya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Patreon app is literally their website. What does it do that the website does not? Notifications? Offline images? All of these can be done in your mobile browser.

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Notifications, and no browser UI to get in the way. You can do a PWA, but that’s beyond the scope of the average users.

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      • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        No browser UI to get in the way? Is it really that difficult to manage?

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      • pelya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        xkcd.com/3074/

        No app needed. Tell me if it works on your phone.

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      • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Don’t forget data gathering.

        And possibly but probably not; 2FA

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  • billwashere@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    0% is “up to 30%”

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