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Why aren't the Mediterranean, Black Sea, Red Sea, the Baltic etc. considered Gulfs?

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Is Pluto a planet?” problem, I suppose. I doubt that there is a precise, strict definition, so those seas are called that because “it happened this way historically” and there is no real need to change that.

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    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve seen a diagrammatic chart showing the difference, but damned if I can find it on my phone.

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      • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think it’s like this:

        Sea = Sea water surrounded by land

        Gulf = water that goes into land

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    • Flemmy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It changes nothing that’s why avoid anyone bring “about Pluto” discussions it’s a waste of time.

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      • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It might be more difficult in the case of seas. There may be some international norms on where the borders should be. So sea vs. gulf might bring real problems with it. Nobody wants that (except for Putin-Trump crazies)

        But I’m not a specialist. Maybe it won’t change anything.

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  • sp451@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Probably at the time that the name was coined people thought that it’s a area rather than a gulf. List like Milford Sound is technically a fjord and not a sound

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    • Flemmy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But does it make a sound?

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      • DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Only when there’s nobody around.

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  • bloup@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    to me “sea” doesn’t mean anything except for “general water region, smaller than an ocean”. I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with considering those three to be “gulfs”, but I think that people don’t usually think of them that way because unless you studied the geography carefully, you might not even notice that they actually are connected to the rest of the ocean.

    by the way, fun fact: there is actually a sea that isn’t connected to the ocean and why we don’t call it a lake, I really don’t understand. but that’s the Caspian Sea.

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    • Successful_Try543@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      According to its German Wikipedia article, the Caspian Sea is called sea and not lake only because of its size and salinity, not because it matches the relevant definitions of a sea.

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