No thanks
The Greens and Liberals Joined Forces to Block Labor’s Housing Bill
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Unforgivable
A minority Labor government could be truly progressive – and the conservatives know it | Lenore Taylor
Submitted 5 weeks ago by vividspecter@lemm.ee to australia@aussie.zone
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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So they did what minority parties are supposed to do, and told labor “we will not pass your plan unless you double the fund and number of houses”, and labor simply ignored it, letting the bill die like they said it would?
That’s a labor problem. Not a greens problem. The Labor of today is captured and exists to prevent real meaningful change, and low knowledge voters like you blame “the left”.
zurohki@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
There’s this weird belief that minority parties are supposed to ignore their own policies and just support whatever the closest major party wants. And not supporting the major party means they’re failing in this duty.
So Labor could drop the plan and blame the Greens for it, instead of actually pushing for their own policy. And the media frames this as a failure by the Greens.
The same media that almost unanimously supports Australia’s right wing conservatives, but I’m sure their opinion on this particular point is completely unbiased.
prex@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Meaningful change or nothing? Blame labor all you want, the greens voted against an improvement.
Fuck ideals, I want progress.
Even if you disagree with me (which is fair) check your local candidates in theyvoteforyou - especially independents who vary enormously between rhetoric, voting and even attendance.
ziltoid101@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fwiw, I wish the two parties were more cooperative, but it takes two to tango. Greens aren’t obliged to blindly pass every bill that Labor proposes, the burden is also on Labor to negotiate their proposals to gain majority support.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yeah I thought that was the whole point of a parliamentary system.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
they aren’t obligated to block critical funding for housing either, they made their decision and ive made mine
the real pain for me is that when i went to vote there was like 5 nutter parties all of them right wing, the libs and then just labor and the greens on the left, limited choices for anyone left wing :(
eureka@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
“Joined forces” is a dodgy way for them to frame that. Libs and Greens both wanted different outcomes. The Greens weren’t being unreasonable and showed themselves to be open to compromise, during a housing crisis.
sqgl@beehaw.org 5 weeks ago
I didn’t like Greens’
- support of the Digital Identity Bill
- support for Hamas
- Larissa Waters: “I believe women”
But they will probably get my #1 in the lower house and probably preference flows in the upper.
I won’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Speaking of unforgiveable, do you know why Labor didn’t stand in Prahran earlier this year?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
No idea I’m in Brisbane but are you talking about federal labor or state labor?
eureka@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
It’s great to see that more and more people are voting away from the ALP and Coalition every election. The false dichotomy rhetoric of “they’re better than the other party” is just insufferable, and the US has shown us how the two-party duopoly plays out.
Investigate your candidates. Don’t assume all independents and minor parties are different, many are former members of the big parties. There are plenty of resources other lovely aussies have posted in the past couple of weeks so just ask around.
vividspecter@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Just make sure you preference Labor ahead of the Coalition. That’s the risk of “both sides” rhetoric, although I would hope that most people here understand this.
eureka@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Of course! I’ve definitely got Labor above Liberal above ON. But Labor are around the halfway mark on my ballots, my electorate is blessed with better options.