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Five-minute EV charging: CATL says "Hold my electrons and watch this"

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨vegeta@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://newatlas.com/automotive/catl-naxtra-shenxing-gen-2-freevoy-dual-battery/

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Great article, but when comparing to BYD 5 min charging, the CATL system is incomplete.
    The new CATL battery can handle faster charging, but they haven’t made chargers that can handle or deliver the needed power, to charge that fast.

    BYD has built the the entire infrastructure from charger to battery, the charging system in the car can handle the 1MW charging power required. (1000 volt at 1000 amp). A battery that can handle it from 10-60% And finally they are setting up charging stations that can supply that level of power.

    The CATL battery is great because it shows we can go even further, but BYD has their system available NOW!

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    • kurcatovium@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Meanwhile the fastest charger in my city is ~50kW and is often out of order, so you ha e to go slower because most others are 25kW… And it’s not better anywhere near, half hour drive gets me to no better chargers. This lack of infrastructre where I live is one of the reasons I still don’t have bev (also price).

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        We can now get cheap 22kW chargers for home use. But yes electric cars are still expensive, we are hoping 2nd hand EV will drop in price quickly, because there are always new better cars coming out. Here you can almost buy a house for what a new EV with good range cost.
        Here it cost extra to use fast chargers, but we have from 50 to 300 kW. But already at 100 kW it’s already more than twice the normal cost of electricity.
        We have solar panels, so we would really really like an EV? That’s free charging half the year. 😎

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    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Charging this fast is always battery to battery, right? Any idea how many cars can the BYD charger charge before going back to a normal speed (i.e. getting power from the grid)?

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Charging this fast is always battery to battery, right?

        It’s DC but I think it’s from grid through inverters. And those inverters are quite expensive. So my guess is they can go on indefinitely.

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      • BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It doesn’t need to be, high voltage transmission lines can run 1000s of MW then you can use a transformer to step the voltage to what you need and then use a rectifier bridge to convert to DC.

        The problem I see is the effect of trying to turn on and off 1MW power from a grid could cause problems so the battery could work a bit as an expansion tank to smooth out grid power, so that you always charge it at 100KW and if you need to increase supply you can slowly increase your power draw without shocking the grid.

        At the end of the day I personally think 1MW charging is overkill and a 10 minute charge time is a perfectly reasonable goal

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  • rbesfe@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Good luck getting the local utility to supply you a 1MW hookup for your charging station

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