I found this recent video by Puck Nielsen pretty enlightening.
Security without submarines: the military strategy Australia should pursue instead of AUKUS
Submitted 3 days ago by Billonthehill@lemmy.world to australia@aussie.zone
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maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 3 days ago
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 days ago
A good defense is not neglecting your offensive capabilities.
Frankly slotting into a large allied force benefits us more than covering our massive coast line in missiles and drones.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
No doubt… But relying on subs, built by a criminally corrupt fascist state, who has already shown that they will abandon or turn on allies at any time, is the dumbest scenario to entertain.
Our agreements shouldn’t completely abandon the US, but they should be kept at arms length, and the possibility that the US could be the invading force should not be neglected.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 days ago
Okay, so go with other subs. Don’t go with this stupid idea that we can defend our coastline with missiles and drones.
Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 day ago
The subs deal has always been insanely stupid. It’s like when we spent like $10bil on a few fighter jets a while back - if China came knocking looking for an invasion, having 6 subs and a few dozen fighter jets may as well be a few mosquitos buzzing around chinas ears. Completely pointless.
No one is coming to invade Australia. We’re too far away, too barren, and we already give away all of our resources for almost free to anyone who asks.
Our military strategy should be “yeah nah she’ll be right” because we have nothing to worry about.
nevetsg@aussie.zone 1 day ago
I had to check this claim for myself and as far as I can see your numbers are way off. Looking at the numbers supplied by the ABS I can see 2.485M arrivals over 5 years to 2024, or neally 10% of the 26M population. Not the 20% in your claim but feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
65% of these arrivals are Temporary visa holders, so they go home again…
13% were returning Australian Citizens.
6.3% were from NZ.
14% were Perminant Visa holders. 350K over 5 years is 1.34% of the Australian population.