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Daily reminder that the good old days of the Empire weren't THAT good...

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨PugJesus@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨historymemes@piefed.social⁩

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  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh I don’t know, at least the leaders of the Roman empire were routinely assassinated. Wish that’d happen to the current guy.

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  • Furbag@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Imperator, a member of the patrician class has been accused of slandering your noble family name in the public forum. What shall you do?

    A: Crucify him

    B: Sacrifice a goat at the great temple of Jupiter and pray for the gods justice to be done

    C: Enslave his wife and daughters

    D: Do nothing and drink more wine

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    • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      E. Drag him through a long and painful lawsuit accusing him of unspecified inuria, wherein your Syrian lawyer publicly destroys his reputation (ironically inuria itself) and nets you a hefty cash payment for ‘damages’.

      … then drink wine bought with his money. 😎

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  • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I recommend “M: Man of the Century” as a cinematically gorgeous and scary portrait of Mussolini and his rise to power.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Megaopolis

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  • DGen@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only If I get to use the communal sponge first!

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  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fuck Rome. They spread the plague of christianity all over Europe and exterminated nearly all the European religions

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    • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Don’t forget they wiped out the cultural heritage of the Gauls and Brits.

      Wiped out most of the Gauls outright, really. Estimates of Caesar’s conquest was 1 in 4 Gauls dead, 1 in 3 enslaved.

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      • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Don’t forget they wiped out the cultural heritage of the Gauls and Brits.

        These the same Gauls whose culture and language remained vibrant and present in archeological finds until the arrival of the migrating Germanic tribes?

        The same Brits whose culture, likewise, survives until the Anglo-Saxon migrations pushed them into enclaves in Wales and Cornwall?

        Wiped out most of the Gauls outright, really. Estimates of Caesar’s conquest was 1 in 4 Gauls dead, 1 in 3 enslaved.

        No, accepting Caesar’s numbers ("Caesar considered that a million Gauls had been killed, and a million enslaved.") with modern estimates of the Gallic population (~6 million) results in 1/3 dead or enslaved. The issue is that mixing-and-matching numbers like that is highly questionable, even if you want to take Caesar’s conveniently round estimate as literal and accurate.

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    • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Other way around. Christianity spread itself through Europe, and exterminated both Rome and Roman religion.

      There’s a reason that the religious conflict with the invading Germanic tribes in the Late Empire was overwhelmingly not “Pagan vs. Christian”, but “Arian Christian vs. Nicene Christian”

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      • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So you’re saying that Christianity didnt have its big break when the empire interpreted the bible in 320CE?

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If Christianity was so virulent, why didn’t Judaism do the same thing? Christianity is just a Jewish cult, after all. I blame Rome!

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Explanation: When the awareness of the GLORY of ROME was reawakened in the Renaissance, conscience imitations of the Roman Empire by polities became common. However, as the rationalist impetus of the Enlightenment began to eclipse the cultural and material achievements of the Roman Empire, this began to fall by the wayside.

    … only for the mass-idolization of the Roman Empire to be revived by right-wing nationalists in the early 20th century, who could then perceive the Roman Empire not simply as a time of cultural refinement and material marvels, but as a time of centralized and chauvinist rule over a geographically vast polity, three qualities which the dominant cultural currents had increasingly rejected in the late 19th and 20th century. Fascists, unfortunately, still attempt to appropriate Roman iconography, once common across all political leanings, to this day. It’s a near-guarantee that major political figures invoking the Roman Empire are far-right cretins, and the success of creatures like that never bodes well for a nation’s future.

    … we love Rome here, but not more than we love modernity and democracy. Rome was great insofar as it was better than its contemporary peers - Rome is not great in comparison to nearly any modern country.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eh, the Romans plagiarized nearly everything from the Greeks, only replacing the gayness with chauvinism. Two stars. Out of ten.

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      • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Nah, the Romans were just as gay, and arguably less chauvinist, depending on how you define chauvinism. Certainly, the Romans were less sexist than the Athenians, more accepting of freedmen than any major Greek society, and more accepting of outsiders and foreign ideas.

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