As Labour touts more brutal cuts to benefits, how is this different from life under the Tories? | Frances Ryan

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• obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Um they’re red not blue, duh.

  I wonder how many of us didn’t vote for either of the main parties? Hmm. Pity it wasn’t more.

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• martini1992@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just gonna leave this here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YeH5UXYEzPE Economics explanation from an ex city banker, I’ve found things he says tend to happen.

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  • Twig@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Really interesting. Much better than people just going “duh Keith is bad”

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  • AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Gary is fantastic.

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  • bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Interesting watch, good conclusion: tax the rich!

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• shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You know, I sometimes really fucking hate living here.

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• ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As Labour touts more brutal cuts to benefits, how is this different from life under the Tories?

  It isn’t, just like we said it wouldn’t be before the election, when the cultists refused to listen.

  Keith and his cronies are nothing but establishment serving placeholders and future scapegoats for the right to blame for all the ills of society and come back in stronger and more fascist than ever. And when that happens, the cultists will act all surprised and bewildered again because they simply refuse to hear anything that contradicts their deep indoctrination in to passive compliance with the rules.

  As for

  There may be no nasty impulse to punish ‘skivers’

  If you genuinely believe that, you’re not been paying any attention, or are completely oblivious to the masses of ableist and classist dog whistles they’ve been using all along.

  Is it really a wonder why we get so much more frustrated with liberals who insist on playing along and cooperating with the system, insisting they care about society and its most vulnerable (to stroke their own egos) while refusing to listen to our warnings (again, to stroke their own egos, after all, they still see us as beneath them), than we are with those who are at least honest about throwing us under the bus? Once again MLK’s quote about white moderates being a bigger barrier to equity than the KKK are proves its depressing accuracy.

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  • rah@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    we said

    our warnings

    Just out of curiosity, what group are you referring to?

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The thing that really grinds my gears is that at the next election people still won’t consider parties like the lib dems or greens that actually want to bring in social policies.

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    • frazorth@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      God, listening to folks bitching about LibDems because they were the scapegoat for the Tories decades ago is just saddening.

      They have literally been the only party that have offered actual change to our voting system. Sometimes I dream of what a different state we would be in if that referendum had passed.

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    • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Welcome to FPTP

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• MonsterMonster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If companies paid decent wages there wouldn’t need to be a reliance on state welfare and charities. Companies paying low wages benefit indirectly from the benefits paid.

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Decent wages don’t cure sicknesses that require a functioning healthcare system, alas, and that’s our biggest problem at the moment, with regards to large numbers out of work.

    I know people who can’t work because of an illness that the NHS can treat, but the waiting list and hoops to jump through to obtain treatment can be literally years long.

    They want to get back to being healthy and working, but the national services they need to get there basically just don’t exist any longer…

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  • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You do realise that many people (significantly more since covid in fact) are on benefits because we can’t work, right? And it’s those benefits (disability, employment support) that are getting the worst cuts.

    So you’re not technically wrong, but your solution also doesn’t help those of us most targeted.

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• zante@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  lol guardian, too funny

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• seven_phone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There have been many studies suggesting austerity measures do not provide real improvement and may trigger downward economic spirals. Cutting benefits is an attempt to provide an underpaid workforce to corporations siphoning wildly unequal shares of profit off the wider population. A thing which also leads to downward economic spirals. So it is not different in the least to the Conservatives, neither party places the welfare of the majority of its constituents above that of business.

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  • teamevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All austerity measures do is increase the wealth concentration to the richest of the rich.

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    • seven_phone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When they cut winter fuel allowance do you think their own homes went cold. When they cut benefits do you think they will cut their own tax payer funded expenses, because expenses is just another word for benefits. Everything you need to know is right there in those two questions.

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