Over many years the providers & industry have been allowed to manufacture the problem and they now get the opportunity to sell customers the solution with new handsets, all whilst harming competition, increasing profits and cutting costs by shutting down the 3G network.
Australia’s 3G Shutdown - Telcos to Block Working 4G/5G Phones!
Submitted 1 month ago by Ilandar@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
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oahi@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Baku@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Omg I forgot high Jeffrey’s was a thing. Haven’t watched him in about 4 years!
TinyBreak@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Wait, so my phone was brought through Telstra. It’s on boost so I assume no worries there. But my wife’s phone was brought from jb. Are you telling me an iPhone 14 Pro brought from an Australian retailer 12 months ago might no longer work on Telstra?!?!
Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 month ago
It sounds like if you bought your phone from Apple or Samsung or JBHIFI you are stuffed. Can’t believe it.
youngalfred@lemm.ee 1 month ago
This seems like a mess
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 month ago
He published another article recently about exactly that. It sounds like the telcos are putting in less than the bare minimum of effort and the government has been too clueless to hold them to account. And when it does try to legislate it has done so in a nonsensical way that risks hurting more than helping.
oahi@aussie.zone 1 month ago
How is this legal?! So the likes of Telstra are blocking otherwise functional phones?
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 month ago
A phone can make a 000 call with no sim card so uhhh…the fuck
oahi@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Except when it can’t make any calls because antenna firmware not having the right updates or some bs like that. This industry is a hot mess and I’m about to tap out.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 month ago
It sounds like they are over-complying in response to recent legislation:
This is due to an update to the ‘Emergency Call Service Determination’ (ECSD), in the explanatory statement it says:
“Subsection 6(2) directs ACMA to include requirements for providers to identify mobile phones unable to access Triple Zero, notify the user, provide assistance if necessary to access an alternative mobile phone, and cease providing service to the affected device. Providers will also be required to not provide service to a prospective customer seeking service with an affected mobile phone. This requirement makes clear the responsibility providers have to ensure mobile networks provide access to the emergency call service.” […] “The amendments to the Determination to be made under section 6(2) are to be determined and commence in full by 1 November 2024.”
oahi@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Yea. That’s part of it. Keep reading.
Honestly, I’m sick of this industry and wasting my money on them. I’ll make do with a new $100 phone from the post office in case I need to make an emergency call. 000 will still work even without a sim.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Visit AMTA to check your device.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 month ago
The author of the article claims AMTA is not a reliable indicator of VoLTE compatibility:
Additionally Tools like the ‘AMTA 3G Lookup Service’ are not accurate or reliable. AMTA knows this, hence why you need to agree to a long list of terms & conditions before using it.
This new ACMA policy is deeply disturbing because many consumers, including myself, own fully functional devices that can make VoLTE calls and emergency calls, yet are deemed “incompatible” by the telcos.
These are devices with the exact same hardware and software as ‘officially supported’ devices, the only difference is the telcos didn’t sell them.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Thanks.
I have a mild headache I haven’t been able shake so I’m putting down my not catching any of that to being super drowsy and zapped.
vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Will be interesting to see if this applies to Vodafone, as I haven’t seen any messages despite using an imported phone. And the messages I received from Telstra were somewhat justified as the phone is missing B28, but that’s more of a coverage issue.
A shitshow in any case. VoLTE should really have been a core part of 4G and not this tacked on proprietary upgrade.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 month ago
They’re totally gonna get fucked by themselves .
The big telcos downstream to other companies that offer sim-only accounts (eg: i have a dodo acct, they resell optus). So they either kill the entire lucruative resell part of the business, or inevitably face court because telling someone “oh this phone doesn’t work because you no buy from optus” when a slew of other people are literally using the same self-provided model on their network will be exposed as the massively artificial pile of shit that it is.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Vodafone’s 3G network has been switched off for 9 months at this point, I don’t know if customers would still be getting messaging about it. Though there was a section in the article about issues with roaming for international visitors in January:
vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I was thinking more about the apparent changes in legislation, so the issue could reappear. It’s hard to tell if the author is overreacting or how it will actually pan out, since it’s all a bit incoherent to me.