Submitted 4 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to globalnews@lemmy.zip
https://theintercept.com/2024/08/20/dnc-harris-gaza-uncommitted-protest/
It’s not just “Uncommitted” activists who are pressuring Kamala Harris on Gaza policy. Her own delegates are speaking out.
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The leftists outside looked from liberal to nazi, and from nazi to liberal, and from liberal to nazi again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
I am a liberal in the U.S sense. Not a leftist, nor a democrat, and certainly not a nazi.
I really bristle at the notion that there’s no room between liberals that want revolution, and party-line toting democrats.
There are literally dozens of liberals who don’t view the Democratic Party as representing them, but also aren’t all that interested what happens under Christian fascism if normal people don’t vote, or corporate takeover if the people overthrow the government. (Because, after the military, only large corporations have the organization, capital, and manpower to direct society - and they would, if given the chance.)
If I may, can you clarify what you mean by
I am a liberal in the U.S sense. Not a leftist, nor a democrat,
In US political parlance, Liberal is typically synonymous with Democrats, and a broad, ill defined, ‘left’ of the political spectrum.
Outside the US, and in much of political science, liberal denotes a broadly centrist, status quo position, that can be left or right leaning.
And in neither of those definitions do liberals ‘want revolution’. At least not in the way that my fellow commies on Hexbear might typically conceive of it.
I really bristle at the notion
Bristle away, it won’t un-dismember all those Palestinian kids
First, I appreciate your reference to literal dozens of liberals. 😁
Second, you’re right that most liberals don’t want revolution. Non-liberals too, for the most part! Unfortunately, in some corners of Lemmy, such as Hexbear or Lemmygrad, the ability to distinguish and discuss nuance is not included in what I would describe as their “community values”.
If you’re looking for a constructive discussion about policy issues, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Alternatively, if you prefer to discuss everything in terms of absolutes, and you love China and tanks, it could be a great time.
while some in the section and another section behind the protesters started hitting the banner and the people holding it with their own signs.
Peaceful… Like the summer of live with its peaceful burning cities, assaults and murders.
"…the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’ ”
It was people holding “Thank you Joe” signs hitting people holding a “Stop arming Israel” banner. Anyone holding a “Thank you Joe” sign supports the genocide of Palestinians and this is just a very on-the-nose case of how they are trying to distract from that genocide, as despite their support for it, they are embarrassed to admit it plainly. Like crypyofascists but neoliberal.
The Summer of Love was a bunch of hippies and hippie-adjascent people engaging in what is basically hedonism in a single city for a summer. Drugs, sex, chilling, etc. This was during the Civil Rights Movement and Vietnam, so there is a parallel in that this crowd chose self-indulgence and complicity over forming an organized resistance to segregation and imperialism (their opposition to the Vietnam War, such as it was, was primarily based on sympathy for their war criminals rather than their Vietnamese people), but they were not the cryptofascists that went around justifying and fighting for those things. That was people note like William F. Buckley and, as you might expect, the lanyard-wearing political class like those attending the current DNC.
I’m not sure what you think The Summer of Love is but your comment sounds like a reactionary boomer Facebook comment.
Anyone holding a “Thank you Joe” sign supports the genocide of Palestinians
Have you ever considered that being this much of a reductionist is limiting your ability to understand the true nature of the world around you?
As opposed to the Democrat’s very peaceful mass slaughter of innocent Arab children.
No peaceful like jan 6th
Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
They’re committing a literal genocide against muslims right now so this isn’t much of a surprise unfortunately.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Sadly they’re rationalizing it by blaming it all on bibi and Bidens just been too weak to stop anything another country is doing. If you point out anything contrary to that you’re a Russian troll.
Same if it’s the USA policy that can never change