“at some point” being like 400 years in the future? Sure.
Ok that’s probably a little bit of an exaggeration. 250 years.
AI as a general concept probably will at some point. But LLMs have all but reached the end of the line and they’re not nearly smart enough.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
li10@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
LLMs have already reached the end of the line 🤔
I don’t believe that. At least from an implementation perspective we’re extremely early on, and I don’t see why the tech itself can’t be improved either.
Maybe it’s current iteration has hit a wall, but I don’t think anyone can really say what the future holds for it.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
LLMs have been around since roughly 2016. While scaling the up has improved their performance/capabilities, there are fundamental limitations on the actual approach. Behind the scenes, LLMs (even multimodal ones like gpt4) are trying to predict what is most expected, while that can be powerful it means they can never innovate or be truth systems.
For years we used things like tf-idf to vectorize words, then embeddings, now transformers (supped up embeddings). Each approach has it limits, LLMs are no different. The results we see now are surprisingly good, but don’t overcome the baseline limitations in the underlying model.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
The “Attention Is All You Need” paper that birthed modern AI came out in 2017. Before Transformers, “LLMs” were pretty much just Markov chains and statistical language models.
jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re right, I thought that paper came out in 2016.
mashbooq@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
I’m not trained in formal computer science, so I’m unable to evaluate the quality of this paper’s argument, but there’s a preprint out that claims to prove that current computing architectures will never be able to advance to AGI, and that rather than accelerating, improvements are only going to slow down due to the exponential increase in resources necessary for any incremental advancements (because it’s an NP-hard problem). That doesn’t prove LLMs are end of the line, but it does suggest that additional improvements are likely to be marginal.
Reclaiming AI as a theoretical tool for cognitive science
Wooki@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh really! The analysis has been established since the 70’s. Its so far from early on that statement is comical
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Transformers, the foundation of modern “AI”, was proposed in 2017. Whatever we called “AI” and “Machine Learning” before that was mostly convolutional networks inspired by the 80’s “Neocognitron”, which is nowhere near as impressive.
The most advanced thing a Convolutional network ever accomplished was DeepDream, and visual Generative AI has skyrocketed in the 10 years since then. Anyone looking at this situation who believes that we have hit bedrock is delusional.
From DeepDream to Midjourney in 10 years is incredible. The next 10 years are going to be very weird.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The next 10 years