Nationalism is believing in your country and doing what is best for your country. Is a very GOOD thing. You seem to think America shouldn’t be the focus of our leaders.
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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 weeks agoNationalism is believing in your country and doing what is best for your country. Is a very GOOD thing. You seem to think America shouldn’t be the focus of our leaders.
You Godwin the conversation in 4 replies. Well done. The Democrats are much more like the Nazis than the Republican party.
Conservatism isn’t dead. It is far from dead. If it was dead then why is Florida and Texas doing so well? Why are blue people moving to red states?
Why would I read 2025? it has nothing to do with the election. I don’t get the fascination with the left trying to bring up irrelevant things to scare people.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
It’s what the word means. Don’t troll r1
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m not trolling. That’s not the definition of nationalism. Back up your claim instead of making threats like a coward.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Second warning. Stop trolling.
Go look at the dictionary.
remotelove@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles de Gaulle
Charles was a nationalist, so much so that Gaullism was actually a thing. However, it’s more important to use his definitions rather than his words, for or against, any specific action or justification. This article explains that very well: www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2018/11/43935/
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I think hate is only when it’s jingoism. Every country should do what’s best for their people. You should be proud to be French, British, American or whatever country you are from.
remotelove@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
This is what you tare describing as good: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism
Here is a national conservative group that aligns with that: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_Party
By describing nationalism as a good thing, you are ignoring a massive amount of context. Jingoism only refers to hostile foreign policy and war mongering. As a veteran of the second Iraq and Afghanistan wars, I clearly saw the “jingoistic” nature of the Republican party as a whole. Hell, not only am a US veteran, I have nice firearms collection and enough ammunition components to survive two or three apocalypses. That doesn’t mean I have to tolerate the nationalist behavior of people that think they are “conservative”.
The abhorrent anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from the GOP should be just one single example of how thisChristian Nationalism is not “good for all people”. The repealing of Roe vs. Wade was not “good for all people”. Politicians publicly embracing Q-Anon conspiracy theories is not “good for all people”. Supporting and justifying the actions of the Proud Boys is not “good for all people”. Creating plans like “Project 2025” to convert the US into a dictatorship is not “good for all people”.
Are you calling me unpatriotic because I refuse to accept that Republican politicians are doing all of the above? You, by accepting, tolerating and even supporting any of this is bizarre and is not patriotic. It’s disgusting, to be honest.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
You keep moving the goal post around. American nationalism is good for Americans. French nationalism is good for France.
I’m not a fan of Christian nationalism as it’s not American nationalism. It isn’t doing what’s best for your country.
I’m a veteran of gulf war 1 and the war on terror. So thank you for your service.