I’ve had YouTube Premium since the days when it was called YouTube Red, so like a decade. I’ve grown used to not seeing any ads from Google and anytime I watch a video not using my account it’s torture.
Comment on YouTube is Losing The War Against Adblockers
Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 months ago
The other day I visited youtube without any add-ons and concluded I’d rather do anything else than use youtube under those conditions.
pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Same here. FreeTube for desktop and NewPipe are all you need though if you don’t want to pay and/or have access to music.
Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Tubular is newpipe + sponsorblock BTW
I use pipepipe but it’s less stable
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I haven’t tried that yet. I think Libretube also does SponsorBlock too & have seen it on F-Droid.
towerful@programming.dev 4 months ago
As a recent YT premium-tryer, it’s amazing how many ads they put in that aren’t obviously adverts.
Not sure I’ll keep YT premium beyond the free trial, until I find more decent content producers. Even then, it’s skipping their paid promotions.
So it’s like paying for a streaming platform to not get ads… But still getting adstimewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I agree… however, that is an issue with the content creators relying on using content promotions. I have noticed when skipping ahead in videos that it usually indicates in the progress bar where the promotion ends. If the content producers utilized other ways to contribute and I liked them enough, then I’d do that. YouTube now has a subscriber only feature that should help with this. There are also extensions that are supposed to block sponsors too. I don’t think YouTube has implemented any functions to make blocking sponsored ads more difficult, especially for paying users… who knows though.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You‘re part of the problem then. It only got so shitty in the first place so they could trap people in the Premium subscription that will get increasingly more expensive and less useful.
seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Pro tip, LLMs do an excellent job summarizing YouTube videos now. I’ve never liked YouTube content, the incentives for creators are perverse and discourage conveying accurate information simply in favor of drawing out every video to maximize ad opportunities. About 95% of the content I might have been interested in could have been better conveyed in a 1-2 page blog post and read in 2 minutes instead of stretched out into a 15 minute video. Having a robot summarize that content is so much less irritating.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 months ago
What do you use for that, fetch the transcript and just feed it to the LLM of your choice?
seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve always just used chatgpt for both tasks. I’ll ask my SO, she does more of this and she might have better tools to suggest.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That‘s where Youtube Premium comes into play for many fools who don‘t really know about adblockers. Google‘s goal isn‘t to destroy the website, but to turn it into a much more profitable Netflix subscription based on user generated content. Sadly the enshittification of the biggest video platform will continue because enough people are willing to pay a lot for it. The site will not improve until there are mainstream alternatives that actually take revenue off Youtube.
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You could pay for YouTube Premium
Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Is that what they are trying to do? Push crap ads and try to kill adblock to get them to pay for another subscription?
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t care if you block ads… but to act like Google owes you and that you deserve free content is called entitled.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Google owes me nothing indeed, that’s why I don’t pay.
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I’m just glad someone is thinking of the shareholders
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I forgot… where can I get my free data center with petabytes of storage & 300TB/s fiber interconnects?
towerful@programming.dev 4 months ago
I get what you are saying, but the balance is off.
YT premium is more than a streaming service per month.
There are no industry leading movies or series released exclusively on YouTube.
YouTubes benefits of premium is “not being delivered ‘skip after 5 seconds’ live streams” that play indefinitely (or at least for hours).
Also, streaming services provide much better series discovery. Ie, find a show you like and easily discover the start of that series, then binge watch the entire series in order.
YT premium is basically a “play next” queue, 1080p, and no ads.
It doesn’t (AFAIK) support creators any more. It’s literally just a fee to not-be-inconvenienced, and it’s not great at thatBedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Wait, are we acting like YouTube isn’t profitable now? If I’m going to spend money on videos it’ll be a content creator owner platform like Nebula
bulwark@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s only a matter of time until the premium users get ads. Just like Netflix, and cable TV before that. You will inevitably wind up paying to be advertised to.
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Netflix has ads now? I thought that was only for their lower tier service? I had to cancel Netflix cause they haven’t came out with two more seasons of Stranger Things yet.
Damage@feddit.it 4 months ago
Google makes enough money evading taxes already. Not gonna help them make more.
timewarp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t care if you use ad blockers. I get annoyed when people publish articles like… “Google is losing the adblockers war” cause then advertisers are going to start pushing harder for Google to actually prevent adblockers entirely, which they could have done already. Thus far Google, despite issues, does quite a lot of good things… Android is the only open source OS out of Apple & Windows. Android lets you install third party app stores. Chrome (Chromium) is open source… etc.
These users writing this content don’t even develop the apps to block YouTube ads. If you’ve ever explored the APIs by YouTube, then you’d know that Google despite pushing ads for users without blockers, is still rather friendly to third party apps.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Advertisers couldn’t care less about adblockers. Advertisers don’t pay if the ad is blocked.
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’d pay for YouTube Premium Lite if it didn’t state “Note: Ads will still show on music content and outside of videos.” and if that’d make them stop harvesting all my data.
casmael@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Fuck that though
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s so bad that I 1) refuse to pay for premium so I don’t enable the behavior and 2) ended up sideloading an alt YouTube app on iOS that just doesn’t display the ads. YouTube hasn’t been able to block that one yet as it spoofs as the original YouTube app. Totally unsanctioned and a pain in the ass to keep the certificate alive but worth it. YouTube is actually enjoyable again. All that because the ads interruptions were constant. If it was every 15 min or so I wouldn’t care, but every 5!? Get the hell out of here!
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 4 months ago
Same.
I came across someone who uploaded a 90 minute video as an ad as well.
towerful@programming.dev 4 months ago
I remember watching some video, falling asleep for a few hours, then waking up to a livestream of an ad. One of those “skip after 5s” but it was a livestream, so it just kept playing. I couldn’t believe it!
kinsnik@lemmy.world 4 months ago
legit, if youtube ever beats ublock origin, i’ll just stop watching youtube
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Its an all put assault on half your senses without an adblocker. Literal torture.
seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The entire web is like that without an ad blocker these days.
Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 months ago
I miss those cheeky gif banners from the 2000s
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Yt-dlp download script + text file with fav channel urls + jellyfin.
No bullshit, saves bandwidth.
Also look into invidious.
0x0@programming.dev 4 months ago
And peertube, some content creators also post there, e.g., The Linux Experiment.
chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 4 months ago
They were serving videos with ads spliced in, basically DAI in podcasting industry. I’m not sure how that experiment went, but if that’s how they’d serve the videos, downloaders will have ads embedded as well.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Yt-dlp supports sponsorblock, i am not worried.
I also dont even need tools for this as my usual style of watching is with my fingers on the arrow keys to skip back and forth
acetanilide@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Put it on a VHS, then use one of those VCRs that removes the ads for you.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
YouTube had beaten ublock origin for a while so I resolved to using invidious.