Comment on Procreate takes a stand against generative AI, vows to never incorporate the tech into its products | TechCrunch

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• Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does it? I worked on training a classifier and a generative model on freely available galaxy images taken by Hubble and labelled in a citizen science approach. Where’s the theft?

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• PrinzKasper@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I assume you mean all generative AI? Because I don’t think AI that autonomously learns to play Super Mario is theft youtu.be/qv6UVOQ0F44

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• BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can you explain how you came to that conclusion?

  The way I understand it, generative AI training is more like a single person analyzing art at impossibly fast speeds, then using said art as inspiration to create new art at impossibly fast speeds.

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  • Clasm@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The art isn’t being made btw so much as being copy and pasted in a way that might convince you it was new.

    Since the AI cannot create a new style or genre on its own, without source material that already exists to train it, and that source material is often scraped up off of databases, often against the will and intent of the original creators, it is seen as theft.

    Especially if the artists were in no way compensated.

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    • paw@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To add to your excellent comment:

      It does not ask if it can copy the art nor does it attribute its generated art with: “this art was inspired by …”

      I can understand why creators unhappy with this situation.

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  • gap_betweenus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    With this logic photography is a painting, painted at an impossible high speed - but for some reasons we make a difference between something humans make and machines make.

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• ribhu@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s a blanket statement. While I understand the sentiment, what about the thousands of “AIs” trained on private, proprietary data for personal or private use by organizations that own the said data. It’s the not the technology but the lack of regulation and misaligned incentives.

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• douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, it sums up a very specific type of AI…

  Blanket statement are dumb.

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