if I see something requires an app, no matter how good it is otherwise. the product is dead to me. I know it is, effectively, going to break within a year or two.
Comment on Smart sous vide cooker to start charging $2/month for 10-year-old companion app
harsh3466@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Translation:
“Fuck you for not replacing your perfectly fine and still working 10 year old machine and making our line go up more. We’re gonna do our best to brick it because we want all of your money.”
Fuck capitalism. I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 months ago
kjaeselrek@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I have one of these, and I use it just fine without an app fwiw
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 months ago
you never know for sure until you try though, so if it requires an app, it’s dead to me and I don’t trust anything else the company makes.
if it has an API i get very wet very fast.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
About two phone changes ago I never reinstalled the anova app.
It’s like pressing the buttons on top of the cooker with extra steps.
kjaeselrek@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
That’s fair, but the point I was trying to make was that I have tried and, for the one I’ve got at least, the app isn’t required. I’m not trying to defend them or anything, I just thought it was worth mentioning.
Tbh I’m kinda glad it doesn’t have an API, because I’d end up wasting a lot of time playing with it haha.
TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m getting that same way.
Currently trying to chase down some automatic sun shades that don’t need an app to do time-based cycles. Shouldn’t be this hard, but every band wants you to use absolute garbage apps.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Switchbot and home assistant might fit your needs. It still would require an app, but home assistant is self hosted and is a fantastic automation platform. I’ve installed so many hardware items that are either “appless” and are controlled by home assistant or home assistant is compatible and replaced the app.
Absolutely worth it IMO. I have been able to make a full self hosted/controlled and offline functional smart house.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 months ago
if its not open source; it doesn’t exist.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yeah, I need to start being better about this. It’s a shame because I bought my joule sous vide because I like the simplicity and ability to monitor and program it remotely (helpful when cooking for 5-6h). App stopped working properly and now they’ve been purchased by breville and if I want to use it I need to switch and I’m guessing it won’t be long before they start to drop functionallity or require some sort of subscription. There are things like this where the app is much more than a gimmick. But it sucks to have some company pulling the strings of what you can or can’t do with your own hardware.
primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 months ago
water+heat proofing is hard, or I’d suggest a DIY solution.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 months ago
can’t just root the sous vide?
stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I mean it is shitty still, but people with an old device and an account already are unaffected, plus the old devices like the one I have is completely operable offline. I’ve not connected it to WiFi except when I first got it to check the app out.
__init__@programming.dev 2 months ago
Same. It’s becoming more difficult every day.
FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
And that’s so sad. There are a lot of (mainly Elderly people) who don’t even have a smartphone who now often can’t use the most basic stuff necessary it needs an app.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot of this stuff is only useful if you have money, anyway. And poverty rates among the elderly have been climbing since the Housing Crash of '08
SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I’ve said this before, I’m going to say it again: people with money spend it to save time.
Managing 2FA, software updates, account signin, device pairing, billing, privacy policy updates, cookie notices… This shit does not save people time. It does the complete opposite.
These products are for no one. These products are purely anticompetitive schemes, propping up crappy business models.