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Comment on Patreon: adding Apple’s 30 percent tax is the price of staying in the App Store

MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Yeah, I actually think this policy is 100% correct and, if more services did this instead of eating the costs, we could have a real discussion about the harm caused by arbitrary fees.

It will likely result in Apple seeking a special deal with Patreon to avoid this mess though. It’s really not a good look for Apple especially as they cater themselves to the creatives market.

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helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

they cater themselves to the creatives market

LOL only in advertising.

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- MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I mean, sure, but this counteracts all that money they spend when most artists make their money on Patreon or similar (if they make any money at all, frankly.)
  
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neclimdul@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Being as this is very similar to the apple epic legal fight that epic lost earlier this year, I doubt apple will make a deal. My understanding is that patreon can cave, choose to pay 27% commission, or make their own store.

Though skimming the news around epic’s attempts to make a store, you “can” make a store in compliance with EU and UK laws, but apple made it kinda impossible to actually do and epic is fighting it in court again?

So patreon seems to have read the lay of things and said I guess we just have to make the best of a shitty situation and communicate everything to try to limit the pain.

It’s almost like apple feels like they have the power to do whatever they want because they’ve created a market where they don’t have competition…

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jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Until recently, apps were not even allowed to charge less outside their apps than on the app store or to link to outside stores.

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- Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We should thank the European Union for that.
  
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  - jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Thanks European Union
    
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    Resol@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Merci, union européenne
    
    Hey, let’s do it in all official languages of the EU. So far we’ve had English and French.
    
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  - elucubra@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The EU (where I live) is a bureaucracy nightmare sometimes, and is often far too removed from citizens. It has a gazillion problems, but as far as data protections and customer rights it does some things half right.
    
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    Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I live in the EU and I’m happy we have it, because otherwise we wouldn’t have many consumer protection laws (either because my government is stupid or because we wouldn’t have enough leverage as a single country).
    
    Many things we now take for granted are only possible thanks to the EU, like the 2-years warranty on electronic/household products.
    
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- sour@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They were allowed to charge less, just not mention or link to it in any way. Proton has been doing it for a while that the Apple in-app purchases are roughly 30% higher.
  
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