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• Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think you’re conflating a ban to include banning their production (not an unreasonable assumption). As we’ve seen with nukes, however, possession of a banned weapon is sometimes as good as using it.

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• catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m guessing the major countries will ban them, but still develop the technology, let other countries start using it, then say “well everyone else is using it so now we have to as well”. Just like we’re seeing with mini drones in Ukraine. The US is officially against automated attacks, but we’re supporting a country using them, and we’re developing full automation for our own aircraft.

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  …and exactly this way of thinking will one day create “Skynet”.

  We need to be smarter than that!

  Otherwise mankind is doomed.

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unfortunately this is basic game theory, so the “smart” thing is to have the weapons, but avoid war.

    Once we’ve grown past war, we can disarm, but it couldn’t happen in the opposite order.

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    • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Once we’ve grown past war,

      But what until then? Your ideas do not provide any solutions. You just say that it is unavoidable as it is.

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      • balder1991@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because there’s no solution that we know of.

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t think I’m smart enough to solve “world peace” lol.

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    • JayDee@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The process of collective disarming is the path towards growing past war. And that first step is the collective banning of manufacturing such weapons.

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I disagree. War isn’t caused by weapons. It’s caused by racism, religious strife, economic hardship, natural resource exploitation, and more. Those need fixed before anyone will be willing to put away their weapons.

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Basic game theory” says we should destroy this wacko system. jfc.

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• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ban the state first. Every state. These wacko cultists are literally destroying the planet so they can control people with killer robots.

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah totally agree. The general population almost never wants to go to war - the plutocrats do.

    Once we take care of our own corrupt governance I suspect wars will rapidly disappear, and then weapons will likewise disappear.

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• Angry_Autist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Once combat AI exceeds humans:

  A ban to all war, globally. Those that violate the ban will have autonomous soldier deployed on their soil.

  This is the only way it will work, no other path leads to a world without autonomous warbots. We can ban them all we want but there will be some terrorist cell with access to arduinos that can do the same in a garage. And China will never follow such a ban

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