Comment on Technically Correct
leisesprecher@feddit.org 5 weeks agoIt’s security theater through and through.
Apart from the obvious failings of these checks, think about what kind of damage a single backpack of explosives can do to a packed airport during holiday season. You can literally put a ton of explosives on one of those trolleys, roll it into the waiting area and kill 200 people easily. No security whatsoever involved.
Reality is, most security measures are designed to keep the illusion of control. Nothing more. Penetration testers show again and again that you can easily circumvent practically all barriers or measures.
Tamo240@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
The goal is not to stop the people in the queue being attacked, its to stop someone boarding a plane with the means to hijack it
nednobbins@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
They fail gloriously at at that too.
Whenever they get tested the red teams manage to smuggle in everything needed to hijiack a plane plus a kitchen sink.
The few times that terrorists tried to board planes, they made it through security and were caught by other passengers.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s what’s changed. Before, a hijacking meant a free trip to south America or Cuba. Now it means you’re likely to die if you don’t stop the hijackers. A planeful of pissed off passengers determined to live are gonna stop a would-be hijacker.
SSJMarx@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Plus the cockpit doors lock. Which can turn out to be a double-edged sword if the pilot has a breakdown and decides he wants to take everyone else with him.
Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Not if he has a bomb though
Liz@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Yeah, and you don’t need the TSA for that. Just do as they already do: lock the cockpit.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Little known fact: many of the pilots behind those locked doors are armed as well.
The Flight Deck Officer program allows pilots to volunteer to become deputized Air Marshals. They receive training and are issued a badge and a gun.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Good guy with a gun, we’re not mentally ill at all !
intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Well, conceivably those in the cockpit could be manipulated through other threats. Either threats to crash the plane, or threats to hurt the people in the back.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Part of their training includes risk assessment that teaches them to sacrifice individuals if it is in favor of maintaining control of the plane.
They flat out train them to shoot through a hostage someone is holding. That one person’s life isn’t worth sacrificing the lives of hundreds of others on board as well is casualties on the ground.
Liz@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Nah, you literally just ground the plane whenever someone does something that rises to that level. Any threat someone could bring on a plane that could take it down is easily found by a bomb dog.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
They had to do something about the plague of people hijacking planes with bottles of water.
Tamo240@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
IIRC water happens to appear similarly to a lot of explosives on the metric they use for what the composition of items in the scanner is.
Improvements are being made though so soon we may be allowed to take water through unrestricted:
Why Airport Security Suddenly Got Better (13:01) youtu.be/nyG8XAmtYeQ?si=RTjA8GRuZaMIJs9d
intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
I’ll drown him! I swear to god I’ll drown him!
Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ah yes, it’s okay if we die, just don’t take the corporate infrastructure with you when you go…