Yes but thise laws are based in their social contracts with eachother and relies on them to enforce them
Comment on I really want people to learn that laws don't exist in nature
one_old_coder@piefed.social 2 days ago
The law is made up. It doesn’t exist in nature.
Look at cats, dogs, birds, or ants. They do have their own sets of laws even if we cannot decode them.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
one_old_coder@piefed.social 2 days ago
Stealing is wrong, it’s a 4000 years old social contract that we put on a piece of paper because we’re smarter than animals. They have their own mind though that we cannot comprehend, which may explain why we don’t know yet how they enforce it fairly.
Also we rely on cops to enforce laws the same way ants do it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Wrong is a social construct as well. What one society believes is wrong another believes is right. The concept of personal property to steal in the first place is not universal.
Is it wrong for me to “steal” food, or is it wrong for you to hoard food and let me and my family starve?
unknownman@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Wrong is completely subjective, yeah. Now, it’s objectively better if stealing is considered “wrong”, though.
pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago You are wrong.
untorquer@quokk.au 2 days ago
They have behavioral patterns. While they may be misinterpreted when behaving outside this expected patterns, they are not punished for the mere act of breaking the norm.
Abnormal behavior may be interpreted as a threat and other members of the species may react defensively as a result. Ants being the most brutal of this list.
But most breaking of behavior goes unnoticed or is seen as play.
Dogs certainly don’t naturally give a shit about property damage, and they’ll fight anyone who threatens their friends, regardless of status.
But look at different breeds of cats and dogs, or species of bird, these behaviors are not consistent, neither are the results.
They can’t be decoded because they’re not codified, and therefore not law.