Comment on TSMC Arizona struggles to overcome vast differences between Taiwanese and US work culture

Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Damage@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Aren’t the machines TSMC uses made in the Netherlands? They’re the only ones who can get down to that size, and they do it working 36 hours a week…

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  • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My brother worked for such a Dutch company (ASM) and often got sent overseas to supervise the setting up of the production lines with these machines.

    He mentioned when he’d get sent to Asia, the workers would make sure to get it done over a weekend, while implementing the same setup would take 2 to 3 weeks in the US. In part that was due to the working conditions mentioned, but also simple lack of planning in case of the latter (things would grind down to a haalt because certain changes would need to be made, and the person responsible for the decision wouldn’t respond for hours or days, etc).

    Side note: while 36 hour work weeks are common in the Netherlands, 40 hours is still the norm in my experience.

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  • TheStar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A large chunk of ASMLs workforce is in the US actually

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• BigTrout75@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Correct! Well unless, they’re starving and need to feed their families.

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• cyd@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Funny thing is, TSMC in Taiwan is considered a premium employer. It offers much better pay and parks than other companies.

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  • Llewellyn@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Parks?

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    • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perks

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      • Speculater@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Now we don’t know they don’t have kick-ass parks.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Getting parks as perks sounds great to me.

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    • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Science park expansion ratified: www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/…/2003811196

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• BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It can’t be just that. The cultural difference is real in the sense that there is in Asia in general more obedience or reverence or discipline or selflessness or whatever you call it, that you simply don’t find at scale in western civilisations. Whether it’s good or bad I don’t judge

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  • Llewellyn@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Will, it’s bad from Western POV.

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    • TheStar@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s doubly bad because Asian countries are significantly more productive due to extremely long working hours.

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