Comment on Major shifts at OpenAI spark skepticism about impending AGI timelines

• mke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If you genuinely think LLMs are anyway capable of even basic reasoning despite all ample evidence towards the contrary, I honestly don’t care about convincing you anymore. You’re asking for a miracle out of me—to explain consciousness itself, even—while you can just say “but there’s a chance” even though LLMs can’t get basic facts right.

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• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Is language conscious? Is it possible to “encode” human thinking into the media we produce?

  Humans certainly “decode” ideas, knowledge, trains of logic and more from media, but does that mean the media contains the components of consciousness?

  Is it possible to produce a machine that “decodes” not the content of media, but the process through which it was produced? Does tmedia contain the latter in the first place?

  How can you tell the difference if it does?

  The more I learn about how modern machine learning actually works, the more certain I become that even if having a machine “decode” human media is the path to AGI, LLMs ain’t it.

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  • NounsAndWords@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is language conscious?

    Are atoms?

    I don’t know if LLMs of a large enough size can achieve (or sufficiently emulate) consciousness, but I do know that we barely know anything about consciousness, let alone it’s limits.

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    • mke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Saying “we don’t know, and it’s complicated, therefore there’s a chance, maybe, depending” is not an argument.

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