double back figure 8 knot?
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anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month agoAs a climber I have to disagree, figure 8 knots are the best, especially when double back.
It’s the one knot I trust my life to on a weekly basis and I have rarely encountered a situation where they weren’t part of the solution.
counselwolf@lemmy.world 1 month ago
HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 1 month ago
It’s a standard figure 8 knot, but the end of the rope doubles back through the eight. This leaves the end of the 8 at the top of the knot & would look similar to this:
Waveform@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Looks easier to undo than a bowline.
HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I get you on that, it doesn’t look like much. I’m guessing that’s because it’s a true follow through & looks “traceable”?
Physics or whatnot means the stress that knot puts on itself allows it to retain roughly 80% of the ropes strength, without a backup knot.
Many use a backup knot, but that’s typically just for convenience, to get the loose end out of the way.
The biggest reason, aside from the knot’s strength (…and to my knowledge), that it is used for climbing, is because it will not fail or slip past a rope delivery system, such as an ATC or a grigri.
Basically if you’re ass backwards & heading in the wrong direction, that knot may help stop your decent by not blowing past a safety measure.
gedhrel@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Figure eight on a bight.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 month ago
As a normie knot-know-nothing, I have to say, whatever happened to my double-knotted shoelaces.
HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I like Velcro.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 month ago
Me too, me too.
wjrii@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Look, friend, if you can’t trust 15 year-old me, who acceptably tied FOUR different knots that one time to check off the box in the handbook, or 17.83333 year-old me who managed the building of not one but TWO picnic tables for a local elementary school because my Dad was being a pain about finishing the final Eagle Scout project, then who can you trust?!?!?!?!