but this is consequence of his own action
Yeah, because people choose to do drugs just because, and such choices absolutely exist within a vacuum /s
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
6.“Dental work is astronomical, even with insurance. Yeah, cleanings are free, but if you ever need anything more than a filling, it’s just not something that can be budgeted for. Due to having a now-overcome addiction, my husband needs pretty much all of his teeth removed and replaced, but we barely live paycheck-to-paycheck as it is. I hate that he has to live like this and that people see him with missing teeth. He did the hard work quitting his addiction, but his confidence is basically nonexistent now.”
wow, what a dystopia.
i live in a country with quality and affordable medical care and something like that would not be free as well here.
good on him for overcoming his addiction, but this is consequence of his own action, not a dystopia.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Mmmm luxury bones…
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Yes, not having teeth is the Lord’s punishment, yes.
Not free, not free!
Not been addicted, he should have been, yess.sparkle@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Drug addiction is a disorder most often caused by some sort of pressure to do drugs. It’s almost never a path someone chooses to take just because. And, obviously, it takes extremely long and an extremely good set of circumstances to escape, you can’t just choose not to have a drug addiction suddenly. “Having a drug addiction some time in the past is his fault so it’s not dystopic that he can’t get basic healthcare” is an extremely ignorant take.
Should diabetes treatment not be accessible to all because a lot of diabetes is partially caused by lifestyle either? Or rather, is your argument that in a capitalist world, which can’t exist without an underclass and people too poor to afford many basic necessities, it’s fine that people who can’t afford healthcare just get fucked and rack up a bunch of debt from the hospital & (in the case of the US) can’t get treatment from doctors/specialists for anything that isn’t immediately life-threatening?
I just want to gauge the line for how much healthcare inaccessibility/insecurity there needs to be, or who can be excluded, for you to accept that it’s dystopic.
Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You went out of your way just to tell everyone that you think former drug addicts aren’t deserving of medical care? Not even people who currently do drugs (who are also all 100% deserving of medical treatment btw), anyone who used to do drugs is disqualified, too? It’s an absolutely insane take to say “they used to do drugs, so they don’t deserve to have teeth.” And what of all those people who didn’t do drugs, but still need and can’t afford dentures or implants? If you can’t afford reliable access to dental care from the start, you’ll likely be stuck with preventable problems down the line that then become even more expensive to fix. The situations of these people aren’t different from former addicts in any meaningful way; they need dental work, but can’t afford it. You’re ignoring the core issue that important and completely necessary dental work (and medical treatment of all kinds) is too expensive for almost everyone, not just current or former addicts. As a result, many are forced to go without that treatment. That’s a bad thing. You saw someone complaining that dental work is unaffordable, and all you could think to say was “Yeah, but they’re druggies, so there’s no problem here.” You’ve justified a terrible system to yourself because you view the people who were quoted as being beneath you. What’s truly dystopian is both that medical care would be out of reach of so many, but also that people would be ok with that as long as it means the “undesirables” don’t get to have any. The societal disdain for marginalized human life and the moral superiority complex that fuels it are both absolutely appalling.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
yeah, no. i said that not receiving it for free is not a dystopia.
and i didn’t really go out of my way… as someone who’s emotional outburst would make 10 paragraphs, if its author knew how to correctly break the text into them 😆.
Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s hard to take this seriously coming from the guy who can’t even go 2 sentences without a paragraph break. My points still stand.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Both of you have reasonable valid points that could be talked about if you both weren’t acting like little kids and throw insults at eachother. It’s easy, I even find myself doing it at times, but it isn’t productive.
14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 months ago
so, comment of your inability to use paragraphs is invalid, because… i can use them?
you should keep this template, it is hilarious.
😂
is the point you are a clown? i agree. i won’t be replying to you further.