Comment on Microsoft points finger at the EU for not being able to lock down Windows

• Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The driver was signed, the issue was with a configuration file for that’s not part of the driver.

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  • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    A configuration file shouldn’t crash the kernel. I don’t understand how this solution could pass the certification. I don’t know the criteria of course, but on the surface it sounds like Crowdstrike created a workaround, and Microsoft missed or allowed it.

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    • Morphit@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How would you prove that no input exists that could crash a piece of code? The potential search space is enormous. Microsoft can’t prevent drivers from accepting external input, so there’s always a risk that something could trigger an undetected error in the code. Microsoft certainly ought to be fuzz testing drivers it certifies but that will only catch low hanging fruit. Unless they can see the source code, it’s hard to determine for sure that there are no memory safety bugs.

      The driver developers are the ones with the source code and should have been using analysis tools to find these kinds of memory safety errors. Or they could have written it in a memory safe language like Rust.

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      • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You don’t need to prove that no input can crash the code. “Exhaustive testing is not possible” is one of the core testing principles, ISTQB teaches that. As far as we know, the input was a file filled with zeroes, and not some subtle configuration or instruction. That can definitely be expected, tested, and handled.

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    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      AFAIK, blue screen doesn’t mean kernel crash. Hell, windows crashing isn’t even rare.

      Certification doesn’t mean it has Microsoft seal of approval either, only that it comes from a certified and approved vendor, with some checks at best.

      Config files are not part of the driver, ever. How do you think you can change the settings of you GPU without asking Microsoft?

      But hey, if you are so willing to blame Microsoft for the one time it’s not their fault, may I talk to you about our Lord Savior Linux? In my office we only knew because of the memes.

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  • mriguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Maybe it should be. At least part of the package that’s signed.

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