Comment on Valve runs its massive PC gaming ecosystem with only about 350 employees
glimse@lemmy.world 2 months agoThere is absolutely nothing that differentiates valve from the other stores front to justify this.
The “justification” is that Steam is a good storefront and others kind of blows. There’s nothing stopping other companies from making good software…they just haven’t.
it’s clear collusion.
That’s not what collusion is… Steam doesn’t sell Nintendo games and is Epic/Microsoft’s rival.
Can’t wait for all the downvotes and simps coming to defend him
To be clear, I’m not defending billionaires. Your talking points are just kind of baseless.
The product stays the same if we bring down their revenue to 1 billion, they aren’t close to bankruptcy. If they took 0.5 %, Gaben would still be able to afford a yatch or two, just not 6.
Having a competitors product on your platform doesn’t have anything to do with collusion. They are rivals but they don’t actually compete or strive to give their customers any kind of competitive prices.
And yes, you are defending a billionaire.
The product stays the same if we bring down their revenue to 1 billion, they aren’t close to bankruptcy. If they took 0.5 %
So? I don’t care if they’re forced to lower his salary. You said nothing differentiates Steam enough and I’m saying it does so by being good.
They are rivals but they don’t actually compete or strive to give their customers any kind of competitive prices.
The majority of customers on all storefronts are fine with the pricing as-is. Steam’s competitive advantage comes from being the best storefront with an amazing library and . That’s why it’s the top dog
And yes, you are defending a billionaire.
I’m clearly not. I’m defending the service itself
The majority of customers on all storefronts are fine with the pricing as-is. Steam’s competitive advantage comes from being the best storefront with an amazing library and . That’s why it’s the top dog
Pricing has biting to do with Steam, that’s publisher/developer controlled. And they have a quite a lot of stink to say about the cut they take for nothing. They need to curate and moderate all their own store page, Steam does what and takes 30%?
It’s no wonder some take epics deals, the cut they take is 12%, that’s significant. And if epic can operate by taking that much with their employee count, clearly valve could be doing a far better job of what they do, but they do what again…?
If they took 0.5 %,
Took from what? Is this about the revenue share again? Stop listening to that idiot Timmy.
We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.
We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.
Epics 12% and they operate with how many more employees?
Epics are posers at this point, or one could say a fake platform. Remove Fortnite from them and it will shut down immediately, especially at 12%.
To be clear, I’m not listening to anyone. I think the government should step in and force a maximum of 5% on all stores, or something similar.
The fact that they all take the same percentage is exactly the reason why I’m saying there’s collusion going on.
Government of which country or countries? You wouldn’t think they would stay in the US if what you said will happen, would you?
I’m sure you came up with that 5% number after careful research and didn’t just pull some low round number out of your ass.
/s
With a 30% cut they make enough surplus that the owner is a billionaire that can afford 6 yacht, there’s no reason why you or anyone should defend Valve’s decision to be so profitable instead of making games cheaper and that applies to any company where the owner is rich.
Yachts. This can’t be more silly. And what would you say if he didn’t own those yachts? “Look at the bank account of that guy who owns almost a whole gaming platform because others are not qualified enough to compete with his company”?
If steam took a smaller cut game prices wouldn’t budge a single goddamn cent and you know it
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean they have tried, but than they get in shit for doing something different (epics free games). Valves marketing and fan base is top notch and defends them voraciously with their rose coloured glasses.
They have buggy games, they don’t update them, they are currently over run with griefers.
What’s with the passes they keep getting? As you said they get “justification” lmfao, what a fucking joke. Its capitalists defending, does musk get a pass for his space ventures? No, so why does gaben? Please explain in detail, I would love a legit answer to this.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
Because people dont want free games, they want a useful service with features. EGS is a piece of shit that leaks users data often.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You seem to think they can just create a copycat store of steam at release. That’s pretty foolish, they are constantly updating their store with new features, it takes time to develop stuff.
And I’ve not heard of a data leak, let alone multiple, sources please, because not even Google is bringing up any meaningful results. Maybe you’re thinking of developers and not them themselves…?
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 months ago
L O L
Epic tried to pull an Amazon.
Get VC money and chinese money and subsidize and undercut competition using anticompetitive practices to gain market share before the rug pull where they jack up their margins to the industry standard.
The difference is Amazon actually made a good software experience in the beginning few years and Epic spent literal years with very few feature updates and whining and burning money suing about “unfair market practices” when they were the only ones actually engaging in anti-consumer passes like paying off developers to be Epic-exclusive and buying developers and removing their games from steam.
They never got to the rug pull part because their actual software sucked balls and they refused to improve it so much so that someone else actually made a better launcher than them for their own products…
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Humble’s is 12% and all the others charge 30% because that’s what steam set as an arbitrary standard.
They can all operate with lower, but go off on this conspiracy theory.
ashok36@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nobody shit on epic for giving away free games. You can’t just make a completely false statement like that.
Please don’t like epic because they bought games and made them exclusive to their store.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Uhh go check the internet maybe? Epics gets bashed for everything, including the free games dude lol.
ashok36@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Provide one example if it’s so ubiquitous. I have been following the EGS discourse for years and never seen anyone complain about the free games.
Maybe complaints about how the games aren’t worth it because you have to use EGS, sure. I’ve made that joke myself. That’s a different complaint though.
glimse@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nowhere did I say Gaben gets a pass, I’m saying Steam is a great service.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But is it? It’s maintained by its users and customers.
Gabe reaps all the benefits and who else gains? You’re justification is what?