I'd also like to make a point that it seems a lot of people with AWD in my area miss.
If the road is solid ice, not snow, AWD isn't going to help you much at all.
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litchralee@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’ll be upfront: IMO, hatchbacks > SUVs. That said, a number of manufacturers make “uplifted” versions of their sedans/hatchbacks, such as the Mazda CX-3 which is the bigger version of the Mazda 3 sedan/hatchback. The same applies for the Mazda CX-5 which is a bigger Mazda 5 (not available in USA).
But directly answering the question, AWD is typically an extra weight penalty (200-300 lbs, 90-130 kg) with attendant fuel economy impact (usually around 1 MPG lower), a bit more maintenance due to having to keep the wheels equally worn, and in rare cases, gets you into trouble where a 2WD car wouldn’t.
To elaborate on that last point, in snowy weather, an AWD car can get moving better than a 2WD car, but the number of braked wheels is unchanged. So some people end up getting stuck further along on an impassable road or down in a ditch in their AWD car, in places where tow trucks have to wait for the weather to calm down. Meanwhile, the 2WD car would have already detoured when first encountering the unplowed snow.
If you don’t have snow, then you’re not really getting much of the benefits of AWD but have all the downsides and it costs more. AWD doesn’t shine in the rain either, since moving faster is rarely desirable in wet conditions.
If you do have snow, snow tires on a FWD is superior to all-season tires on a AWD or 4WD. This is because snow tires improve braking as well as acceleration in packed or slippery snow, for all cars.
So for light winters or places where it snows so badly that driving at all is ill-advised, a FWD with snow tires may be perfectly suitable. Since you’ve been happy with your Nissan Versa, I assume you don’t have the steep, slippery driveway which would tip the equation in favor of AWD/4WD.
TL;DR: it depends, but go AWD only if you need it.
I'd also like to make a point that it seems a lot of people with AWD in my area miss.
If the road is solid ice, not snow, AWD isn't going to help you much at all.
Awd can only help with turning and accelerating! Braking is just you, abs, and the lord
I live in a sunny climate (California), so I’m genuinely curious: would the solution to icy roads be winter tires? And does winter tire == snow tire?
I understand studded tires are also an option, but I think their use in this state is heavily curtailed or outright prohibited because of the damage they inflict on the road surface.
There are Mazda 5’s for sale near where I live in the US. Where do you live in the US that they aren’t available?
I should have clarified that the Mazda 5 is no longer in production. I’ve seen them from time to time here in California.
Ahh ok, that makes more sense. To be fair though, I rarely saw any Subarus when I lived down south, but once I moved out west they are pretty much all over. So it’s not beyond the realm of having different distributions of cars in different areas.
Pretty sure the CX-3 is actually a Mazda 2, and the Mazda CX-5 is on the same platform as the 3, just enlarged a bit.
Now that I think about it, you might be right. The Mazda 5 is a minivan, and a lifted version of that would be some sort of #vanLyfe vehicle, whereas the CX-5 is a crossover SUV with five doors.
But surely the CX-5 can’t be the Mazda 2 or an uplifted version of it, since the 2 is (was?) a three door vehicle, no?
The new Nissan Kicks is supposed to have it and it was in and models of the Nissan Juke.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah but then you’re driving a station wagon.
litchralee@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
True, and I don’t see a problem. :)
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Well isn’t the Cybertruck technically a ute? So you’ve got that option…
noxy@yiffit.net 4 months ago
Sure, if a poptart is technically a burrito or if a bowl of cereal with milk is technically a soup
card797@champserver.net 4 months ago
Fuck yeah you are. Volvo XC70 rules.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Do they issue you two or three annoying kids to drive around when you buy one of those, or do you have to bring your own?
noxy@yiffit.net 4 months ago
The station wagon is the pinnacle of passenger car design!