Comment on NSA Claims It Can’t Watch a Tape It Recorded in the 1980s

• Tja@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The hard drive with the information is on a very high shelf and you cannot force us to buy a ladder.

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  • umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also, it is a proprietary ladder that match our shelving system, and they don’t make it anymore.

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• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In that case cant we request the raw data in another format? I dont care about the end result if i can make em run trough hoops to comply

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  • godfilma@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tapes Raw data

    How, without the right kind of reader

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Your failure to plan does not constitute my emergency”.

      Sounds to me like they’re just choosing not to comply with FOIA, a federal law.

      This is a bullshit ruling and everyone involved with it knows it. They have my information, I require a copy of my information, end of story. Not providing it is noncompliance.

      But of course nothing will happen because the American federal government is broken.

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      • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What if I didn’t turn on my office lights, so now I can’t read any written materials. I decline the use of technology like lights to help me with this. Now we don’t have to fill requests for written materials.

        I threw away all speakers and headphones. Any audio cannot be processed because we lack the technology and we do not have to get more.

        See how stupid this is???

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I never specified correctly read data.

      I don’t care weather an xray image of the tape end up actually useful. But its interesting to know wether or not such specific data is at all requestable.

      In essence, everything and truly is information, it would be a mistake to discriminate on perceived value because we never know what future science can accomplish.

      When it comes to things that are deemed public, all the information around it should be too, regardless of intend or use.

      Practical Example: While its reasonable that most people assume The text of the Declaration of Independence is what is important. That is not the case if you happen to do a historical study of hemp genetics and want to learn what strain of the plant was used for the declaration.

      An officia office should to my opinion put as much effort into being helpful against requests of both kind.

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      • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The way I understand this, the issue is that without reading it they cannot verify that it doesn’t contain sensitive information, so they can’t give it out. That sounds like a reasonable explanation to me.

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  • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah no, they can’t give it out because they aren’t able to ensure that there’s no sensible data on it.

    Btw, how about donating them a reader?

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They haven’t forgotten about “The Thing”. Anyone donating hardware might have an ulterior motive for wanting hardware inside an NSA building.

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If the information that is the tape cant come to us maybe we can visit the tape and measure it ourselves.

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    • smb@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      you could donate one and at the same time claim (somewhere really anonymously in the internet) that you want to destroy that tape with that player for protection. They then might actually ‘want’ to investigate

      1. the tape
      2. the player (3. possibly also you)

      after doing 1 and 2 they then actually have the technology AND the hardware to play that stupid tape.

      if they do 3. and ask you who you want to protect, you can truthfully say “law fulfillment”

      always think outside the box AND around the corner ;-)

      hope that helps

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