Comment on German Chancellor promotes government cloud from SAP and Microsoft

BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• NafiTheBear@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It is like… Each time we showed how well you can live with open source, Microsoft comes around with an even bigger coffin of lobby money.

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  • BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The worst thing in that is the amount of money and human time it must take just to migrate everything. People only looking at the bottom line is the bane of IT…

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t get it, what you are describing is bad for the bottom line too. If we don’t mean that of Scholz’s personal finances, of course.

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      • BestBouclettes@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What I mean is that these kinds of people usually look at the financial cost per year for a given solution that’s already in place and always look for something cheaper (usually only on paper).
        Usually they look at the cost of a licence without giving a single thought about, let’s say, the processing power that’ll be needed for the new thing, the expertise to set it up and run it, and all the migration work that will be needed to make the switch.
        Also, when these things happen, most of the time you have to fire/hire/train people to adapt, which means you lose some of your internal knowledge and experience. That’s something that can’t be really quantified and can really hurt an IT system.
        In the end, with all the cumulative costs, it’s often far more expensive to switch solutions, and not financially speaking, but that doesn’t necessarily appear on the bottom line they will see from their desks.

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  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not just lobbying. The expertise to build and certify what Microsoft did for government cloud is expensive and rare. Open source still needs a third party to provide that level of support, because the documentation is more important than the technical capabilities.

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    • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hire any competent Linux sys tech?

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    • NafiTheBear@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is a valid mention and I agree, but I also have to say that there are companies like the nextcloud corp itself who do offer that level of expertise and are German based and would use the money to improve nextcloud, which is open source, whereas we don’t know how much of the money that Microsoft takes goes into the open source project.

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    • mryessir@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thing is the authorities are told to use their own IT hoster. This dumbsack just - again - took money from extern.

      It was also, internally, conducted that a third party governing an open-source stack ia cheaper then redmond.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s possible and not so hard, just too boring for people to do automatically, and also bureaucrats have a very different MO, one that you need a commercial company infected by that culture for.

      Also governments steal money. It’s obvious they do. Both in legal ways, when some secretary has salary disproportional to the work they are doing and the need for it at all, and in illegal ones (just for the fun of it).

      It’s about power and dealing with people of their culture.

      The state is interested in less dependence from big corps, but its officials are interested in more dependence, because that means huge contracts with little transparency and lots of time to hide things that don’t look nice.

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    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Microsoft is a bunch of corporate fascist cunts just like the rest of the silicon valley and those fuckers should all die out. Sadly they won’t. Thank you fucking traitor scum Scholz for showing your true shitface once more. Greetings from CumEx

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  • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    coffin

    Hehe. I think you mean suitcase but this works, too.

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    • NafiTheBear@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was intentional play of words. :p

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